Finally Fake Priest Ryan Scott Jailed
Richard Salbato March 28, 2012
For over 22 years, my cohorts and I have exhaustively worked to expose the scams of this charlatan, who changes names as easily as undergarments. This effort was made very difficult by the complicated bureaucracy of the Church and the many court systems which have allowed this man to con millions of dollars from mostly old incautious women. It was known that he was going to jail for over two months now, but I was not willing to publish this until it was first released in a major paper.
Over the past 10 years, I have been slowly vindicated for my lonely stand against some very popular false priests, bishops, mystics, seers, fake Stigmatists, and even new orders and movements in the Church.
This fake priest has been very important to me because his story shows how easily people are fooled, how much harm is done to the innocent, how little the Church does about it, and how reluctant the civil courts are willing to get involved in Church matters. The first article I wrote about this fake priest was 12 years ago and others have many filing cabinets filled with the documents of his crimes.
If you want to never be fooled this is a must read story in its entirety, when you have the time. To understand this long history of fraud, I first give the article of him being arrested, then an outline history of his life, a Tribune News Article of his relationship with the Church, my first Newsletter on him, and then my Newsletter on Kucera and his relationship with this false seer.
1. Fake Priest Ryan Scott Jailed
2. Ryan Scott no longer pretends to be part of the Church
3. Church Condemns Ryan Scott – Letter of 2005
4. Fake Priest Ryan Patrick Scott Letter of 2006
5. Marvin Kucera Refuge Centers. Letter of 1998
1. Fake Priest Ryan Scott Jailed
PHOTO Ryan St. Anne kneels at the Holy Rosary Abbey in
A man criticized by the Catholic Diocese of Peoria for being a fake
priest has been charged with seven felonies in
The Knox County Sheriff's Department will extradite the Rev. Ryan
St. Anne from the
Cordle could not provide additional information about the alleged incident or charges.
The warrant was issued Feb. 29, although St. Anne was arrested
There is a $75,000 bond attached to the warrant, which could be
St. Anne has been criticized by the Catholic faith for his place
of worship, Holy Rosary Abbey, which was located at
However, St. Anne argues that he is an ordained priest. In 2005, he said he intended to file libel, slander and defamation lawsuits against the Catholic Diocese of Peoria after the group told others not to support the abbey.
2. Ryan Scott no longer pretends to be part of the Church
In 1994 Ryan Scott pleaded guilty to felony misconduct in office for cashing a city check of $30.97 for $300.97. He was sentenced to 3 years' probation.
Scott then opened an abbey in Rising Sun,
Scott says the diocese made up the charges against him.
Saying he was tired of the harassment, Scott moved his abbey in
2000 to a former nursing home in
"It wasn't much of an abbey," said Karl Rinkleff, a traditional Catholic from nearby Winterset,
Rinkleff, who once traveled with Scott to a
"It's just not a way a priest should be acting," Rinkleff said.’
Marion Schwenk, 74, spent several weeks
But Schwenk soon came to have doubts about Scott's authenticity. Her granddaughter was later baptized by another priest, Schwenk says, "just to be safe."
"It just doesn't seem he is who he claims," she said.
Scott says his
The Shrine of Our Lady of the Prairies, formed in the 1950s as a retreat center for traditional Catholics, needed a priest and a financial manager. Gevelinger, the shrine's treasurer, had met and admired Scott from attending traditional Catholic outings throughout the country. She recommended him for the job.
Board members say they didn't delve into Scott's past because they were desperate for a priest. Scott says he took over a shrine that was a financial mess. He also says he was promised a deed to some of the shrine's property as part of his compensation package.
By Easter 2004, a rift had developed between Scott and the board. Board members said Scott could not properly conduct the rituals of Holy Week and was maneuvering to gain financial control of the shrine and its assets.
Scott sued the shrine's board, accusing its members of financial misconduct. The suit, still pending, asks for back pay and unspecified damages.
Last summer, Scott and Gevelinger moved
In 2002, while still running his abbey in
He provided a graphic account of being gang-raped, along with
several other young men, in the 1970s by a group of priests in the rectory of
Church officials, police in
A diocesan spokeswoman says Scott never provided specifics,
including dates and names of priests or other possible victims. Scott says he
attempted to get church officials and detectives in
In 1998, he said, he related details that could prove his story to
Alfred Kunz, a mainstream Wisconsin priest with whom Scott says he shared
traditional Catholic philosophies. Kunz was about to go
public, Scott said, when he was murdered in Dane,
Scott now refers to himself as an abbot, or bishop. He has big
plans for his ministry in
He recently opened his Sunday services to the public and has
issued a call for traditional Catholic worshipers from throughout the
His goal, he says, is "to die in a state of grace."
In the meantime, Scott says, he will not bow to pressures from
the Roman Catholic Church to stop his work. To do so, Scott says, would be
"I'm not willing to compromise," he said. "I'm not going to deny God and sell myself to hell."
3. Church Condemns Ryan Scott – Letter of 2005
The Church Calls Father Ryan Scott a Fake
By E.A. Torriero
Tribune staff reporter
Published February 6, 2005
followers know him as Father Ryan St. Anne Scott, bishop of the independent
Holy Rosary Abbey, currently housed in a converted home for the mentally ill in
For more than 15 years, the gregarious Scott--divorced and a convicted felon--has moved his troubled abbey around the Midwest, drawing small bands of disenchanted, mostly elderly, Catholics who long for the Latin mass of their youth.
But time after time, Scott and his followers have parted acrimoniously after battling over property, money and theology. Roman Catholic officials in at least four states have publicly warned that Scott is not a legitimate priest and that the baptisms, weddings, funerals and other ceremonies he conducts are not sanctioned by the church.
Those warnings are now being echoed by the
Raised a Methodist [It has now been proven, that while Scott was married by a Methodist minister, Scott was baptized a Lutheran as a baby], Scott says he converted to Catholicism [There is no proof Scott was ever baptized Roman Catholic or received the Sacraments of Confirmation and First Eucharist] and was ordained in 1993 by a breakaway Catholic movement and later officially became a Roman Catholic priest. Church officials say Scott is posing as a priest; and Scott, who says the church has dark reasons for disavowing him, could not produce documents to back up his claim.
"We are not sure what he is, but we are sure what he is not: a priest," said Rev. Ben Nguyen, chancellor of the Catholic Diocese of La Crosse, Wis., which had legal conflicts with Scott in the late 1990s. "He appears out of nowhere, sets up and then disappears."
In any case, Scott, 51, no longer aligns himself with the church. He says his calling now is to be a thorn in the side of the modern-day church by living out the embodiment of "the true Roman Catholic Church" of ancient days.
There are some 500 "traditional chapels" in the
Even in such circles, however, Scott is considered a maverick.
"A network and fraternity exists among us, and he is not part of it," said Dennis
"To sit in theological discourse with him is impossible," said McCormack, who says he began to have doubts after conducting two retreats at Scott-run abbeys. "He doesn't even have the proper pronunciations of Latin."
These days, Scott rises before dawn for contemplative prayers. He leads a group of four "brothers and sisters" and two elderly followers in a daily Latin mass. He utters Gregorian chants as he works through the day.
The group spends most of its time behind locked doors in the abbey's monastery in a quiet
Scott says he supports himself and his abbey mostly through small contributions mailed from supporters around the country.
Roseanne Gevelinger, 77, who became enamored of Scott while attending his retreats and services through the years, moved from
"He's a wonderful priest," Gevelinger said, sitting beneath a smiling portrait of Scott in his office. "I feel cared for here. I love the silence and the solitude."
But wherever Scott has settled, there has been anything but calm.
Scott was chased in court by creditors in
Scott said he was ordained in 1993 in the American Catholic Church, part of the traditional movement and not under the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. The facility, in Desert Hot Springs, Calif., no longer exists and no one associated with it could be found for comment.
Three years later, Scott said, a retired Roman Catholic archbishop in
But church officials in
Scott's account of his religious training also cannot be confirmed. He said he attended St. Ambrose seminary in
Court records show that during the time he says he was in the seminary, Scott was married under the name of Randall Dean Stocks, one of four names he acknowledges using in his life. He was divorced in 1976. The seminary would not accept a married man into priestly training, a spokeswoman said.
Scott said the records that could prove his priesthood are in the hands of a
"Father Ryan works within the context of an independent order," Knickmeier wrote in response to written questions. "What a bishop or bishops say about his ordination is irrelevant ... His work is authentic and speaks for itself."
Answers to `Eternal Rome '
These days, Scott says he wants no part of the Roman Catholic Church and that he answers to no one except "Eternal Rome."
"It sounds like he's a church unto himself," said Ladislas Orsy, a visiting professor of law at
Scott says that as a boy growing up in northern
To cover up his sin, Scott says he married, divorced and put the child up for adoption--all at the direction of a Catholic priest who told him to do so before converting to Catholicism so that he would still qualify for the priesthood.
But Scott didn't return to religious life until the 1980s, when he joined a Franciscan order in
So he went to work in the finance department of the small town of
4. Fake Priest Ryan Patrick Scott Letter of 2006
Richard Salbato 10-31-2006
Holy Rosary Abbey & Father Ryan Scott
The Monks and Nuns of Holy Rosary Abbey welcome you in the name of
our Holy Father and Patriarch, St. Benedict. Holy Rosary Abbey is a traditional
Latin Rite Roman Catholic Benedictine Abbey (Vere
Nullius Diocesis). We adhere to the norms of
We live the traditional community life, as all Benedictine's lived for centuries. We are clothed in the traditional Benedictine Habit each and every day of our life...we are buried in the same holy Habit. Our liturgical life begins and ends each day with the Divine Office (Divinum Officium) chanted (all seven canonical hours) in choir in our monastic Oratoria Sancti Benedicti. We live by the Holy Rule as prescribed by our beloved St. Benedict. We are contemplative, but not cloistered. We are Benedictine ... we are Catholic!
The above sounds wonderful if you do not take a closer look.
It comes from the web site - http://www.holyrosaryabbey.com and is run by Father Ryan Patrick Scott. Truthfully I wrote about Brian Patrick Scott over eight years ago in a Newsletter about the false seer and pedophile, Marvin Kucera. See http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/MarvinKucera.html
Truthfully, I thought that Ryan Scott was caught and arrested and
that Marvin Kucera ran away from the police to
Jon Brady pointed out to me some of the evidence gathered against
his father and yet no law enforcement agency or the Church has done anything
about it. See http://www.holyrosaryabbey.org
. I told him that I had thought he was finished after Marvin Kucera died in
As for my father, Scott, he is now ordaining "bishops". All I know is that Scott is not what he says he is. False prophet is an understatement and I am at a loss why no one is able to do anything to stop things like this from happening in the Church. The main thing I have concern about is why the church does nothing against these con-artists. Don’t they realize how much funding they are losing. Not only that but the damage it does to the reputation of the Church itself. They wonder why people move on to other organizations. They do no background checks. They can't even clean up their own mistakes. The only thing I have seen happen is all the trash they have been able to locate or flush-out have now gone over and call themselves "Traditionalists". It doesn't matter what you call them they are still crooks and con's living off the faith of others. It makes me ashamed to ever have been associated with any of them and they wonder why Jesus is coming back with a sword.
My father (Ryan Scott) used to do coke, pot and who knows what else.
Looking back at some of the people involved with Marvin Kucera and Ryan Scott, I remembered Ariel Fouley, who was a major promoter of several false seers and recently I learn that she just declared bankruptcy a week after her husband was caught by the police holding a quarter million dollars in drug money. Jim Fouley had a drug criminal record in 1993 and now the latest thing in 2007. Why even bring this up? Why, because they will continue to present themselves as leaders and promoters of prayer, devotion, and Marian Movements. Unless you investigate you will follow them or people like them. They seem holy and nice. Yes, all evil is presented as something good and even the elect will be fooled.
Anyway I first learned about the fake priest, Scott, when investigating Marvin Kucera.
What is sad about the former followers of Marvin Kucera is that he was nothing but a con artist from the beginning. He had two felonies before he met with his "conversion". One felony was for immoral and lewd solicitation, and the other for embezzlement. He was an admitted homosexual. He never had any intention of doing anything except to con people out of their land and money, and to become a god in the process. Many false seers are fooled themselves by what they really think is inner voices (actually just their own imagination), but Marvin Kucera knew what he was doing from the beginning.
Marvin Kucera told people that the
Antichrist was already here on earth, and that the
He predicted that the start of the chastisement would be 1995, and that only the Tridentine Mass was the true Eucharist. He advocated that we not obey bishops and priests who are not teaching Marv s doctrine, and that on the 24th of February, 1993 there would be a great sign in the sky. [Nothing happened!] And where is this all leading? Only at the Twelve Refuges of Juda will people be saved from the chastisement. With massive donations from fooled people Kucera formed most of these 12 Refuge centers and many moved on to them.
Once the people who he conned were on to him and the police were
after him, he ran away to
What does this have to do with Father Ryan Patrick Scott? Father Scott became Marvin Kucera’s official priest and spiritual director. Even prior to this Scott was wanted by the police for embezzlement and other scandals involving the Church. Scott claimed he was being slandered by the Church because of his knowledge of the deaths of priests like Father Kunz and Malachi Martin, but Scott had never meet either of them.
Ryan Patrick Scott was supposedly ordained by Retired Bishop James
J. Byrne, S.T.D. Archbishop of
This same bishop gave an Imprimatur to the 1982 edition of "The Marian Movement of Priests". The fact that he had no authority to give this Imprimatur is no condemnation of the bishop. He probably had no idea what he was signing. He was already senile. But those who sought him out knew what they were doing. The only proof of ordination by Patrick Scott is the signature of the bishop, who obviously did not know what he was signing. The bishop would not have ordained a man who never went to a seminary or had any priestly training of any kind.
The person Scott has ordained as Bishop as of 10/28/2007 is Fr. Dennis McCormack who has a long relationship with Ryan yet spoke against him in the Chicago Tribune article of 2005. On McCormack's own site you can see that he does not claim to be Catholic under the Holy Father.
Fr. McCormack's site:
5. Marvin Kucera Refuge Centers. Letter of 1998
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A LESSON FOR THE "EXPERTS"
We address this report to all the former Medjugorje
Centers, which are now called "
What probably prompted Bill Reck to take a second look at himself and the movement was his promotion of Marvin Kucera. The Riehle Foundation was the first major distributor of his books, "MY HEART AWAITS YOU", printing book one and two. When they dropped the books, QUEENSHIP PUBLISHING picked them up and are still pumping them out.
The believers of Marvin Kucera
are a great example of gullible people. But more than that, he is a perfect
example that those who pass themselves off as experts in apparitions should
not be trusted. An example would be Ted and Maureen Flynn of "SIGNS OF
OUR TIMES" magazine, who were Marvin’s
biggest promoters. But the web Marvin wove goes all over the country, into
JUST A CON-MAN
What is sad about the followers of Marvin Kucera is that he was nothing but a con artist from the beginning. He had two felonies before he met with his "conversion". One felony was for immoral and lewd solicitation, and the other for embezzlement. He is an admitted homosexual. What you are about to read will prove that he never had any intention of doing anything except to con people out of their land and money, and to become a god in the process. Many false seers are fooled themselves by what they really think is inner voices (actually just their own imagination), but Marvin Kucera knew what he was doing from the beginning.
ANOTHER GOSPA MYSTIC
In 1990, at a Medjugorje Peace Conference in Irvine, California, Father Stephen Barham laid hands on Marvin Kucera and he received the "spirit of the Gospa", or so tells Marvin of his own story. From that day on, he writes of himself, voices have been talking to him by inner locutions.
He was asked (supposedly by the voices) to go to
Medjugorje and to become a Catholic. Today, all across the country there are
over sixty mystics who went to Medjugorje and came back with the "spirit"
of prophesy. Like the Charismatic Movement, which is what started Medjugorje,
this laying on of hands has spread this spirit. The Catholic Charismatic
Movement started with the hands of a Protestant Minister. The conclusion of
that we leave up to you. To test Marvin s spirit we will look at the
messages, the claimed miracles, his spiritual
director, testimony of his followers and those who knew him personally, and
the fruits over the past seven years. Keep in mind that this is no different
THE MESSAGES OF THE SPIRIT OF MARVIN
This spirit that talks to Marvin Kucera
tells him that the Antichrist is already here on earth, that the
Now, let us look at these messages one by one. The Antichrist cannot be on the earth already, since we know from
104 true and approved prophets and mystics, not including Scripture, that the
Antichrist cannot come until there is a chastisement on earth in which 75% of
the world will die. Then there has to be a period of peace. We
estimate about 40 years. In this peace there will be only one Church on
earth, the Catholic Church. However, after 40 years of no trials and
tribulations to strengthen one’s faith, faith will grow cold, and the
Antichrist will come into the world to take it over for 3-1/2 years. We will
recognize the Antichrist in two ways. One, he will be the one to rebuild the
Next, his spirit claims that Peter\s chain [line]
will be broken. If the line of Peter could be broken,
The tribulation or chastisement we agree with and
know about from true prophets and Scripture, but so do the demons. The
question is what are demons doing about preparing
people for the chastisement, since this is coming from God. Their goal
is to separate the flock from the shepherds, the bishops and the Pope, before
the chastisement, and therefore they will win the souls to Hell. Because as
St. Clement of
Should we obey our bishops, even bishops that we
know are leaning far to the left? Yes!
THE TWELVE REFUGES OF JUDA
That leaves us with Marvin s master plan, the
refuges. Ted Flynn, author of "Thunder of Justice" and
managing editor of "The Signs of the Times" magazine gives
Marvin free ad space, and you can buy Marvin s books from Ted Flynn s
Marvin is a computer hacker, and is said to have revamped all the computers at EWTN, Virginia, at the request of Ted Flynn. Ted and Marvin are (or at least were) very close. Ted Flynn produces some of Mother Angelica s TV shows. We were told that it was through Ted Flynn that a major investment was made in EWTN by a Mason millionaire. And most of the property was bought from him at greatly reduced prices. What we don t know is why a Mason would do a Catholic any favors. We also have in our possession invoices for computers ordered by Marvin for up to $30,000.00 at a time.
So far, Marv has refuges in Hot Springs, South Dakota (incorporated October 30, 1995 at County of Fall River under the name of Juda), Winterset, Iowa, Adair, OK, Mineral Point, Wisconsin, North Haverhill, New Hampshire, Kittanning, PA., and "Our Lady of Guadalupe" in Snowflake, Arizona. In February of 1996 Barbara Mucha of "Lady of Guadalupe Home Foundation, Inc." solicited Marvin s help, but we do not know what came of this. They are:
Lady of Guadalupe Home Foundation, Inc.
(203) 393-0380 343-5818
Diane S. Ferrara, R. N., M. S. M.B.A.
Barbara Ann Mucha, R. N.
Carol S. Chrinielewshi
Right after Barbara Mucha called Marvin he had an apparition that his refuge should be called "Our Lady of Guadalupe". There is also a connection with Nadine Brown (Bellwether Property). See "Signs of Our Times" February 1995, Page 24.
This could be just a clever fraud by a clever man out for money like Joseph Smith of the Mormons, but we don t think so. We have a contact that lived for some time with Marvin. Marv admits to a homosexual background. Our contact thinks it isn’t just in the past but is still going on. Marvin has rages and fits if things do not go his way. And like all cult methods, he causes people to work against each other. People get alone when he is not there, but fight when he is there.
This man, Marvin, is slightly off balance and seems to be more like Jim Jones. We believe there is more at risk here than just the loss of a lot of money, as we will show by the following letters. Actual copies we have in our files.
ONE AND ONE HALF MILLION
Our first letter is a sad one. Helen Bergman Jobe is a recent widow and very religious. How Marvin Kucera came to know her we dot t know. But he managed to
convince her to finance some of the refuge centers and to move onto the
"Our Lady of Guadalupe" center at Snowflake,
HELEN BERGMAN JOBE
Marv KuceraMay 31 1996
Refuge of Juda
I mailed a check for $50,000.00 to you today for Our
Lady of Guadalupe. It will be delivered to the HC-56!
I know that you are leaving to see Ted and Maureen on the 2nd so please make sure someone is aware that the package is Coming as you might be gone by the time it arrives.
Thank you. I am looking forward to meeting you and
Note: Ted and Maureen Flynn of "Signs of Our Times" and EWTN
THANK GOD FO
Helen Bergman Jobe was
lucky. She had a brother, Paul Bergman, who was not caught up in the
apparition mania, but was a devout Catholic who went to Mass every day and
who knew his religion quite well for a layman. He decided to go with his
sister to the refuge at Snowflake,
POST OFFICE BOX 2468
October 28, 1996
Most Reverend Raymond L. Burke
Post Office Box 4004
This letter is being sent to you so that you will
have knowledge of what took place out here in
A man named Marv Kucera,
The following is the sequence of events that have
occurred with reference to myself at the Refuge of Our Lady of Guadalupe in
Monday, August 5, 1996: I moved onto the Refuge. The Refuge was being set up and run by Marvin Kucera. All the land, houses, and equipment were purchased by my sister Helen Jobe. Marv lead us to believe before we moved out here that the Refuge would follow the canon law of the Roman Catholic Church and be obedient to the bishop.
Saturday, August 10: Helen left to go back to
Wednesday, August 21: My sister who I talked to almost daily on the phone asked me to tell Marv that she wasn't going to send any more money. When I did, he got mad and said "I WISH I NEVER HEARD OF YOUR SISTER, OR TAKEN ANY OF HER MONEY." He then proceeded to throw a temper tantrum like a small bratty child and said "I'll have to shut it down, lay off all the workers and all work around the Refuge would come to a halt". There were six to seven laborers who were converting a garage into a chapel.
Saturday, August 24: About forty-five people from the
other Refuges along with Marv's spiritual director arrived for a five day
conference. The spiritual director, Ryan Patrick Scott, lives in the diocese
Sunday, August 25 :Tridentine Mass said by Father Vince LeMoine from Refuge of the Sacred Heart in Winterset, lowa. At noon Ryan exposed the Blessed Host for 24 hours.
Monday, August 26: in the evening Ryan said another
Tridentine Mass and blessed the marriage of a young couple. After Mass I
called my sister to tell her about the marriage and that there was also to be
a baptism. At her house, when I called, was our cousin Bart de la Torre, O.P.
Father Bart asked whether Ryan had permission from the local pastor to have a
wedding and baptism and where the rites would be recorded. After the call I
went to join a group of about 8-10 people sitting on the patio discussing an
issue Father Vince had brought up; that the marriage might not be valid
because Ryan had not performed the right ceremony. After a few minutes I went
to the front of the chapel where Steve and Margaret Reger,
the parents of the young man whose marriage was blessed, were discussing if
the ceremony was valid. I added the questions and doubts that my cousin had.
Then I said "How do we even know this guy is a priest?" We decided
the next morning we would call and check Ryan's standing in the La Crosse
Diocese. The Regers left for home. While we were
talking Ryan finished the baptism. I went back to the group. A few minutes
later Marv and Ryan joined us. Marv immediately became very domineering and
took control of the conversation. He said that Father Vince had "NO
RIGHT" to bring this question up in front of everyone. He should have
first gone to Marv and Ryan and they would have explained everything to him.
Marv said to the group "YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS AMONG
YOURSELVES WITHOUT COMING TO ME FIRST." Marv then said that since
everything was out in the open we could ask questions. I asked Ryan if he had
permission from the local pastor to celebrate a marriage and baptism. He said
he didn't need permission because he was an abbot and not under any bishop. I
asked Ryan where he was going to record the rites, he said in his abbey. I
asked if the law was to record them in the local parish, he said no. I asked
if he had permission from the local bishop to hold Mass in a private chapel.
Marv said he didn't need permission because this was private land and we can
do what we want on private land. Marv also said he had permission from the
Tuesday, August 27: A Tridentine Mass was said by
Father Vince. After Mass I went to the Regers.
Margaret had already called the Diocese of La Crosse and was told by Father
Wednesday, August 28: At my sister's request I
called the Rapid City Diocese because Marv has LEAD her to believe he had
permission for everything he was doing at Juda.
Sister Celine said the Refuge of Juda was "not
sponsored or approved by the diocese" and that they told people to be
"very careful and not get involved." She also said that "the
bishop was keeping an eye on them". By the time I got to the Regers, Steve had called the probation officer and left
to go talk to Marv. I went over to Marv's house but he told me to wait
outside. I told Marv I wanted to sit in on the conversation. Marv started to
scream at me saying "EVER SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE YOU HAVE CAUSED
NOTHING BUT DIVISION AND TROUBLE BY COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT!
YOU ARE DOING THE WORK OF SATAN!" He continued to rant and rave for
another two to three minutes, then he became silent and just stared at me
with a look of utter hate and evil in his eyes. Steve asked me to leave so he
could talk to Marv alone. I drove into town to go to
Everyone came into the house, sat down, and Marv
said in a very loud and angry voice "I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE GOSSIP
AND GOING BEHIND MY BACK AND THE DIVISION IT CAUSES. WHOEVER DOESN'T BELIEVE
IN ME OR THE MESSAGES SHOULD LEAVE THIS REFUGE." Marv also said
"YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS, YOU DON'T KNOW THE DAMAGE
YOU HAVE DONE TO ALL THE REFUGES AND TO FATHER RYAN. IT CAN NEVE
Thursday, August 29: After Mass I stopped at the Regers and was told that no one on the Refuge was supposed to talk to me. I was ostracized for standing up to Marv.
Friday, August 30: As I was getting into bed there was a knock on the door. It was Marv and four other members of the Board of Elders. Marv said "YOU KNOW WHY WE ARE HERE." I replied "No, tell me." Marv said "WE ARE HERE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE, YOU HAVE ONE WEEK TO GET OUT." My reply was "I'm not leaving." This caused Marv to go irate for two to three minutes on how I was nothing but a problem, causing division on the Refuge. He also said "YOUR SISTER'S MONEY WILL NOT BUY YOU A SPOT ON THIS REFUGE." I said "All I'm asking for is independent, INDEPENDENT, [spelled out] --------
I N D E P E N D E N T! ! ! verification that Ryan is a priest." Dale Lawinger answered, "We told you he is a priest, a very
holy priest. That should be enough for you. And don't call Father Kunz
because he will deny even knowing Ryan. Do you think I would let 300 hundred
people attend a Mass on my farm said by someone who isn't a priest?" I
was supposed to believe that 300 people attended the first Mass on Dale's
farm. Which he kept under his own name and did not donate to the Refuges
because he gets farm Subsidies from the government and if the farm isn't in
his name he loses his subsidies.
Saturday, August 31 to Monday, September 9: During
this time I kept to myself. I talked almost daily to my sister and cousin,
Father Hart, for moral support to keep up the fight. The Regers
talked and met with me, they are very devout Catholics and realized Marv was
wrong. They began to attend daily
Sunday September l: I met with Father Jose
Rodriguez, the pastor of Our Lady of the Snow Catholic Church in Snowflake,
Monday, September 9: My sister returned to the Refuge.
Wednesday, September 11: Helen [sister] met with Marv to discuss his disobedience to the Church. She got nowhere with him.
Thursday) September 12: The Regers, my sister, and myself met with Marv. During this meeting Marv said, "I WILL NOT PUT MYSELF UNDER THE OBEDIENCE OF ANY BISHOP." It was a waste of time Marv refused to even consider obeying canon law.
Wednesday, September 17: Marv stopped by the house my sister lives in and told us that he would be auctioning off the property that myself and Helen are living on. During this visit Helen informed Marv that there are no other volumes of canon law commentary that Ryan had mentioned. Our cousin Father Bart had talked to Ryan and the volumes he was talking about is a magazine that is published once a year and has articles about canon law. Helen's exact words were "It carries no weight". Upon hearing this Marv went silent for a minute or two then said, "I have to go".
Friday, September 19: Un-mailed letters were left for myself, my sister and the Regers asking us to move off the Refuge. Helen set a new Refuge record by being asked to leave after being here only ten days. How can Marv ask the person who paid for everything on this Refuge to leave. For myself and the Regers it was the second time we had been asked to leave in three weeks.
Saturday, September 20 to Monday, September 30: Helen retained an attorney and started a civil suit against Marv to have the gifts returned to her. She also talked with Ted Flynn several times on the phone. Ted was trying to mediate some sort of agreement between Helen and Marv. Helen met with Marv on Thursday, September 25 and asked him to return the land and everything he had bought with her money to her, because he was disobedient to canon law and the bishop. He refused
Saturday, September 27:
Tuesday, October 1: Myself,
Helen and the Regers each received a certified
letter from Marv again asking us to leave. This makes the third request for myself and the Regers and the
second request for Helen. We have until October 19th to vacate the premises
or he will start legal action to have us evicted. I would like to know what
is taking him so long to start legal action, he told me on August 30th that
he was going to start legal action. Maybe something in his past is stopping
him from going to court, because we found out he is
being investigated in
Thursday, October 3: Today we found out that Marv
has left town and Dale Lawinger will say nothing
more than he is out of town on business. Dale is here to handle business
while Marv is gone.
Monday, October 7:
Wednesday, October 9: Dale Lawinger called and left a message on Helen's answer machine that the locks had been changed at my house and I could call him to get in. We called the police and they said I could change the locks back because I had been given no notice and did not get a new key.
Thursday, October 10: I, along with my sister, and the Regers, went to court and got an injunction against Juda Inc. and all of its agents. This was to keep them off of the property where our homes are, and also to keep them from harassing us. After court Helen and I changed the locks on my house and locked the gate
Fridays October 11: The lock on my gate was cut off and the whole gate taken and hidden by someone still loyal to Marv. We couldn't do anything about it because the injunction had not been served yet.
Saturday, October 12: The injunction was served at
9:30 A.M. to Max Hartman, a member of the Board of Directors for Juda Inc. who moved here from the refuge of Juda in Buffalo Gap,
Thursday, October 17: Max Harman's father-in-law and mother-in-law served us with a notice of motion to reschedule the appearance in court.
Friday, October 18: Myself and the Regers went to court as scheduled because we thought it might be some kind of trick to keep us from showing up. We were informed that the motion for another date had indeed been filed. So we left with the date to be determined later and that we would be notified. Upon learning that the Regers son s electric power had been shut off while we were in court, we returned to court. I then left to see if my power had been turned off and it had been. When the judge learned this he became upset and set the court appearance for the following Monday
Saturday, October 19: The day of the auction. Steve Reger and myself stationed
ourselves across the street from the entrance to the driveway of the property
where it was to be held. As cars came in I handed them a copy of a legal
notice that informed them that a lawsuit had been filed to recover the land
from Juda Inc. We remained out there for two hours.
During this time members of the refuge still loyal to Marv videotaped us. The
Good Lord gave us a real victory. Not one piece of land was bid on. Total
gross for the auction was approximately $30,500.00 with a net to them after
expenses of only about $22,400.00. Considering that if all the land,
antiques, equipment and other misc. stuff they were selling had all sold they would have received about $400,000.00, we considered
$22,000.00 next to nothing. We gave Jesus, Mary and St.
Thursday, October 24:
Monday, October 28: A person left the refuge this
morning with all his belongings in a Ryder truck. The members of the
community still loyal to Marv are Ray Cole a single man and Max Hartman and
his family. So the community has dwindled from a high of maybe 14-15 people
loyal to Marv and his messages to 6. With Marv and
That brings you up to date. For now my sister and I will not leave unless we are legally evicted. We are staying to fight Marv and his "yes men". As long as we occupy the houses he cannot move in any more unsuspecting people and we are here to tell people what really is going on. Please do all in your power to stop Marv Kucera and his so called spiritual director, Ryan Patrick Scott.
Thank you and God bless you.
Very truly yours,
BISHOP CHARLES J. CHAPUT, O.F.M. Cap.
In a letter written in the West River Catholic paper the bishop gave this warning in the November/December 1996 Issue.
"You may remember that in the June issue of the
West River Catholic information was presented about Marvin Kucera his claims to private revelation and his
establishment of a number of refuges around the
"Since that time I have received several complaints from parsons who have been associated with one or another of the refuges established by Mr. Kucera here or in other dioceses. Some of these persons feel that Mr. Kucera has misrepresented his relationship with the Church and has misrepresented matters of a material or financial nature as well. I have no way of either verifying or discounting the claims and concerns raised by these individuals hurt, what I have heard is enough to cause me concern.
"Therefore I feel it necessary to give a formal warning to individuals in the diocese or elsewhere who are considering either joining or having an association with Marvin Kucera and the Refuge of Juda. I remind everyone to exercise caution and prudence before making moral or financial commitments to Marvin Kucera's organization.
"If anyone has questions about Marvin Kucera or the Refuge of Juda I
encourage you to contact my office and speak to me or to Msgr.
Most Msgr. Charles L. Chaput, O.F.M
"THE MARIAN MOVEMENT OF PRIESTS"
AND THE PHONY PRIEST
Ryan Patrick Scott was supposedly ordained by
Retired Bishop James J. Byrne, S.T.D. Archbishop of
Interesting to note that it was this same bishop who gave an Imprimatur to the 1982 edition of "The Marian Movement of Priests". The fact that he had no authority to give this Imprimatur, is no condemnation of the bishop. He probably had no idea what he was signing. He was already senile. But those who sought him out knew what they were doing. The only prove of ordination by Patrick Scott is the signature of the bishop, who obviously did not know what he was signing. But what about this so-called priest and spiritual director of Marvin Kucera? The National Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D. C. keeps all the records. Listen to them.
On November 6, 1996, the office of the president of the CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS, Most Reverend Anthony M. Pilla, D.D., M. A., Bishop of Cleveland, published the following warning.
Office of the General Secretary
National Conference of Catholic Bishops
(202) 541-3100FAX (202) 541-3166
Monsignor Dennis M. Schnurr. J.C.D.
Sister Sharon A. Euart, RSM. J.C.D.
Reverend William P. Fay. Ph.D.
Reverend Paul D. Therelrx. J.C.L.
Associate General Secretaries
November 6, 1996
From:Msgr. Dennis M. Schnurr If//
Re:Ryan Patrick Scott
The Conference has been advised by the Most Rev.
Raymond L. Burke, Bishop of La Crosse, that an individual named Ryan Patrick
Scott (born Randall Dean Stocks) has been attempting to raise funds for the
"Holy Rosary Abbey," which he has established near
Bishop Burke further advises that Mr. Scott is
currently on probation as a result of a felony conviction and is not to leave
the state of
ECCLESIASTICAL PERMISSION TO PUBLISH
In all of Marvin’s books there is a section called
"Ecclesiastical Permission Not Required". It states that Articles
1399 (forbidding publications of revelations, visions, prophecies and
miracles) and 2318 (the penalties of 1399) of the Canon Law are abrogated by
the Decree of Pope Paul VI on 12-29-1966. This is not true and never has
been. To Queenship Publishing, The Riehle Foundation, Ted and Maureen Flynn of "Signs
of Our Times", we must point out that almost all books on private
revelation without imprimaturs make this same false argument. But the best
proof (that this is not true and never has been) is the latest statement from
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,
II. Regarding the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, the Congregation states:
1. The Interpretation given by some individuals to a Decision approved by Paul VI on 14 October 1966 and promulgated on 15 November of that year, in virtue of which writings and messages resulting from alleged revelations could be freely circulated in the Church, is absolutely groundless. This decision actually referred to the "abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books" and determined that --- after the relevant censures were lifted --- the moral obligation still remained of not circulating or reading those writings which endanger faith and morals.
2. In should be
recalled however that with regard to the circulation of texts of
alleged private revelations, canon 623 #1 of the current Code remains
in force: "the Pastors of the Church have the right to demand that
writings to be published by the
3. Alleged supernatural revelations and writings concerning them are submitted in first instance to the judgment of the diocesan Bishop, and, in particular cases, to the judgment of the Episcopal Conference and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
This is a preliminary report for those asking for it now. We have put it off because we have additional information being presented by people who have lived with Marvin, and were lucky enough to get away with only the loss of house, job and money. As of Jan. 1997, no one knows where Marvin is. But if you have any connection and need help, contact one of the following:
JOHN WALTER, FBI
(DIVISION OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION) (605) 394-2258
BOB OVERTURE (FRAUD DIVISION) (605) 394-2258
BOTH ARE LOOKING FOR MARVIN
BISHOP CHARLES CHAPUT (VERY AWARE OF SITUATION)
MSGR. MICHAEL ROSTER
REFUGE OF JUDA
HOT SPRINGS, SD. 57747-0071
BISHOP DONALD PELOTTE (VERY AWARE OF SITIUATION)
BRO. DUANE TORISKY
REFUGE OF OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE
SNOWFLAKE, AZ. 85937
BISHOP BOSCO (MAY NOT BE AWARE)
THE REFUGE OF SAINT FRANCIS
RD 7 BOX 398 BOOHER RD.
BISHOP LEO O'NEII,
He is aware of a refuge in the diocese but not of Marvin Kucera or Ryan Patrick Scott's background or affiliations
THE REFUGE OF THE FAITHFUL AND TRUE
BISHOP WILLIAM BULLOCK
THE REFUGE OF THE HOLY EUCHARIST
6108 CNTY DD.
BISHOP EDWARD J. SLATTERY
REFUGE OF ST. NILUS
OAKS, OK. 74359-0018
DAVID AND DENISE HATCH
BRYAN PATRICK SCOTT (ALLEGED PRIEST)
KNOWN AS MARVIN KUCERA'S SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR
3 YEARS AGO WAS CONVICTED IN 1994 OF A FELON,
ALTERING CHECK VOUCHERS AS A CITY EMPLOYEE AND DEPOSITING THEM IN HIS OWN ACCT.
THIS TOOK PLACE IN
PROBATION OFFICER IS;
GARY HENDERSON 608-637-3247
FOR MORE IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING
RYAN PATRICK SCOTT CONTACT
CHANCELLOR AT BISHOP BURKE'S OFFICE
DIOCESE OF LA CRGSSE
BISHOP ERWIN G. KLAUSS
BISHOP OF A REFORMED
MARK FITCH IN