My Years in Medjugorje
When you ask about Medjugorje, it reminds us of a good friend of ours who we asked why he goes every year to an apparition that has been condemned by the Church. He said that he felt so much holiness there that it could not be false. He said that hundreds of people prayed rosaries in candlelight processions all night long. There were priests to hear confessions all day. There were images of the "virgin" that came out in his photographs at the site of the visions. There were rosaries that turned to gold. There were cures of the body and of the soul. He said, "I would rather believe in God than man." Of course, what he means, without knowing it, is that he would rather believe the seer than the Church. That apparition is Bayside, New York.
What Bayside is to the ultra right wing Traditionalists, Medjugorje is to the ultra left wing Charismatics, the pluralists. Bayside gives to the Traditionalists support "from Heaven" of their divisions from the Church. Medjugorje gives to the Charismatics support "from Heaven" for their divisions from the teaching of the Church that "Where the Holy Spirit is, there is the Catholic Church. Where the Holy Spirit is not, there is not the Catholic Church." The Holy Spirit cannot be found outside the Church, and yet, that is how the Catholic Charismatic Movement started, outside the Church. This is where they got their "spirit". Whats interesting is that those who believe in Medjugorje, do not believe in Bayside; and those who believe in Bayside, do not believe in Medjugorje. But the reasons they give for believing are the same - fruits.
Learning about Medjugorje requires learning about a great many other private revelations. The webbing and support all over the world between one apparition and another and one group and another is incredible. The entire phenomenon started in the Catholic Charismatic movement. We suggest you read what we have written about this group, because it is the Charismatic world-wide web (that already existed before Medjugorje started) that gave Medjugorje so much publicity so quickly. It is also the Charismatics that keep Medjugorje alive at any cost in money, lies, or even threats.
The question we often ask in any conversation about this apparition is very simple. "Is it all right to not believe in Medjugorje?" The answer is "No!" Anyone not holding to their beliefs becomes anti-God, and is thereafter blackballed from all news-media and bookstores. M. Davies has experienced this with his book, "Medjugorje, A Warning", Father Guerrera with, "Medjugorje, A Closer Look", and E. Michael Jones with, "Medjugorje, The Untold Story". [You can get these books from Catholic Spiritual Direction, Box 1221, Arcadia, CA 91007, but why not Catholic Book Stores.] Father Robert Fox no longer has his Fatima Magazine for not being a promoter. Luis Kaczmark, the custodian and speaker for the Official Fatima Pilgrim Virgin Statue, no longer has his job for refusing to go on the 101 Charismatic flight to Moscow with a group of seers. The Pilgrim Virgin was permanently damaged, and we have first-hand reports of the disrespect paid to Our Lady. It was as great a disaster as the 101 trip to Garabandal to see the warning. This warning, by the way, is no different than the Protestant idea of "rapture". There will be a chastisement of the world, and we think it will be very soon. The bible and the approved prophets tell us of it. The demons, in order to keep Protestants from repenting of their sins at the moment of death, have invented "rapture". But what to do about Catholics? When the chastisement starts, Catholics will say that it could not be the real chastisement because the "warning" has to come first. They will go to their death waiting for a "warning" that will never come. They are the modern Pharisees, looking for a sign. Why do 104 approved mystics over a period of 1100 years give every detail of the chastisement but not one word of a "warning"?
One of these private revelations associated with Medjugorje and the Charismatics is Lubbock, Texas. This apparition is so foolish, we wouldnt waste our time with it except for how it came about. Teresa Werner and two other seers reportedly receive visions. They predicted a great miracle on August 15, and the news media came along with 13,000 curiosity seekers. All was filmed. Teresa let out a blood-curdling howl like a wolf and began to speak in a gibberish language. She imitated a dove and spoke in this strange language again. No miracle took place.
What is incredible is that after even the news-media filming her barking like a dog, people still believe in her. Even priests still follow her babbling. The only reason we point this out to you, is that the locutions received by Teresa Werner began right after she returned from a trip to Medjugorje. Her score by our method of discernment is 16 against, 0 in favor from the book, "Apparitions and Mystics - True or False".
Of course, Werner is not the only seer getting support for what will become the New Age Arian and Nestorian heresies, ( making the Humanity of Christ only a mere human and not the all-knowing God who died on the Cross). One example of this is the Medjugorje support of a condemned set of Books called, "The Poem of the Man-God" by Maria Valtorta. This, too, we have a complete report on, but it suffices to say that even the title of the book is heresy. Christ is not a man-God. He is God made Man. The books, themselves, go on to live up to the title, making Christ a mere ignorant human that did not know anything that God would rightfully know (John 2:25). It also shows a man who tolerated sin, something Christ would not do for even one minute. But most of all, "Poem of the Man-God" is the aping of "The Life of Jesus Christ" by Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich, and in all things exactly the opposite. To believe in one, absolutely requires the rejection of the other. And the results are that Church approved books by VENERABLE Emmerich have been removed from the shelves of the Daughters of Saint Pauls book stores and the condemned books, "The Poem of the Man-God" have replaced them.
We also have the recent apparitions in Scottsdale, Arizona, where a prominent priest from Mother Angelicas EWTN had the Gospa of Medjugorje tell him that she was going home with him. From then on, he and nine seers have been having "messages from heaven". One has even seen Heaven and described it. She has also seen God, the Father. Since none of the five approved seers, who have seen Heaven, including St. Paul, the Apostle, could describe what they saw, how is it that this woman can? Since not even the Virgin Mary could see God the Father when living, how is it that this woman can?
It could be said about Marvin Kucera, Vassula Ryden, Jim Singer, Theresa Lopez, Nancy Fowler, Julia Kim, Christine Gallagher, Rita Klaus, and the like, that they are only aping Medjugorje. But the fact is, that no one in the Medjugorje groups is rejecting any of these people. In fact, they are supporting them. It is Wayne Weible, himself, who published the "inner-locutions" of Brother David Lopez of El Ranchito, Texas, who in speaking of the three days of darkness, claims that people will be martyred but that angles are going to take them body and soul into Heaven. Since no one is in Heaven body and soul except Christ and Mary (not even Henoch and Elias), these martyrs must be the greatest saints in history.
Medjugorje seemed at first a very poor but false imitation of Fatima. It did not even seem demonic, since the demons can produce some very good illusions of the supernatural. There were none of these at Medjugorje, so we just told people to obey the bishop who had commanded silence. Since then, tons of literature has gone out all over the world. We have read all the books in favor of it, many newsletters, and testimonials, even the recent two books, trying to make sense out of 700 , "The Final Hour" and "The Day Will Come" by Michael H. Brown. These are a real sad attempt at discernment because he used nothing but un-approved messages to explain his new mystical theology.
The big surprise about Medjugorje is how big it has grown so fast. Necedah, Wisconsin, and Garabandal had more phenomena and more "fruits" but faded out of sight in only a few years, although neither one has gone completely away. The apparitions at Medjugorje started on June 24, 1981, and have continued to this day.
Fathers Ivica Vego and Ivan Prusina were priests of Herzegovina. Vego was in rebellion against his superiors six months after his ordination in 1978. He and Father Prusina were expelled. They found an unofficial home in Medjugorje. It was there (a few years after the start of the apparitions) that Father Vego fathered a child by Sister Leopolda, a nun of the community of Herzegovina. Father Vlasic also had a child by a nun. [See below.] Vego has since married Sister Leopolda and has left the Church.
When the apparitions began, the Church at Medjugorje was also in rebellion against authorities. The Franciscans were commanded by "their Franciscan superiors in Rome" [not the local Bishop] to turn over the Church to the Diocesan priests. They refused. This is where the priests were at the time the apparitions started, being disobedient to the Bishop and to their own Franciscan superiors.
Two other priests in this melodrama are Fathers Tomislav Vlasic and Joso Zovko. All four are members of the Catholic Charismatic Prayer Groups. All were at the time [and continue] opposing their superiors. All seem to have a connection with Neo-nazi plans in the area. One month before the apparitions, Vlasic received a message from Sister McKenna in a prayer group that something mystical was about to happen to him. The next month it did.
The children were on their way to a secluded spot so they could smoke a cigarette without being seen. It was in this environment of sin that the apparitions started. The priests were sinning against the Church. The children were sinning against their parents. The Charismatic Renewal movement was falling apart and needed a lift. Medjugorje did it.
First of all, we are not dealing here with children but young adults. At the start of the apparitions the children were between 16 and 18 years of age. Mirjana liked to look at the boys, and she dressed very modern for a small Yugoslavian town. The young boy was very typical of boys his age and would rather play than go to church. These things did not change after the apparitions.
Regarding the fact that they went up to smoke is in the records. Ivanka told Bishop Zanic. Vicka admits that Mirjana and Ivanka told the Bishop about going to smoke. There is nothing really wrong here, since it took place before the apparitions. But later the children lied to the Bishop and said that they had gone up the hill to pick flowers. This characteristic of lying seems to be unrestrained in the children and in the promoters.
Vicka was recorded as saying that the apparitions would end after three more visits. When the apparitions did not end, she denied saying it. When presented with the proof, she stated,
"I don't remember, but if it is recorded then we must have said such a crazy thing."
September 20, 1981, Vicka states that the Virgin hugged her. On the 29th she stated,
"I never succeed in touching her, her body is impalpable and seems to be of smoke."
A year later she would say that ,
"Yes, I have touched her dress, it is resistant like metal."
December 3, 1981, Vicka writes in her diary that during her conversation with the Virgin that,
"The Franciscan kept his eyes on us; he was observing our behavior."
When questioned later as to how she could have known this, since during an ecstasy she would not have been able to see anything except the Virgin, she stated that,
"I was told later."
In fact, during the early months there were no ecstasies, for they carried on conversations with the people and the "Virgin" at the same time.
On April 3, 1981, Vicka and Jakov talked to the Bishop and it was all recorded on tape. The tape still exists. At that time the problem with the priests was at its peak. The Franciscan superiors were insisting the priests leave the parish, but they would not. It is known as the "Herzegovina case". This is the conversation that is recorded on tape:
"The Virgin has reprimanded us because last time we did not say everything. She spoke about this Herzegovina Case, and she [The Virgin] burst out laughing, and she added that she could have put everything in order herself. I had not the least idea of what it was all about.
[Note: Everyone in town knew about it.]
"Then I began to laugh. Then Jakov and I exploded with laughter. People asked us, 'Why are you laughing?' We answer that we are laughing because she had told us to laugh.
[Laugh about the case?]
"She gave us instructions for THOSE FRIARS TO WORK AS THEY PLEASE IN THE CHURCH, like all the others, and to celebrate Mass. THOSE PRIESTS ARE NOT AT ALL GUILTY. She repeated it twice. Jakov heard it. Maria was also present."
Later, over and over, they would deny ever having said these things to the Bishop. In fact, the diary of that day disappeared. Since it was all recorded, we can conclude they were both liars. CAN A LIAR BE A MESSENGER OF GOD?
On May 10, 1981, Ivan wrote and SIGNED the words of the "Virgin":
"There will be a big shrine at Medjugorje in honor of my apparitions and this shrine will be in my image. The sign will be fulfilled in the sixth month."
[The promised miracle.]
Three years later, Ivan insists,
"That was not the sign, nor is it the date."
The signed statement is still in existence. Nine years later, there is still no sign. Three years later, Ivan said that the Virgin reprimanded him for writing the lie. [Three years later?]
May 7, 1981, Vicka gave the Bishop her diary with the missing pages regarding the priests and states that there is no other diary. On June 16 she insists that there is no diary at all.
September 16, 1981, Vicka answers, "I have no secret notebook other than the one in which I have noted what Our Lady told me of her life. If you wish, I can confirm this on an oath."
What she did not know was that the Bishop had already seen one of the missing diaries, [the three days of notes on which the so-called "Virgin" had spoken against the Bishop and in favor of the two Franciscans]. And yet, Vicka claimed that she had written everything down from the beginning.
Who, if able to write, would not write down the words of the Mother of God? Five years later she admitted to all the diaries including the missing ones. However, the Bishop was never able to see them.
On January 14, 1985, while in "ecstasy", a Frenchman quickly pointed two fingers at Vicka's eyes. Vicka gave a start and threw her head back. All was filmed on camera. She was not in ecstasy. Vicka left the room with the Franciscan priest and came back a few minutes later. The camera continued to film. She announced without being asked:
"I did not see Jean-Louis [the Frenchman] nor his hand. I saw the Virgin. She had the child, Jesus, in her arms. At a certain moment, the Child slipped, (sic) and I simply made a movement to stop him from falling."
God slipped? The Child, Jesus slipped? How stupid do these Franciscan priests think we are? Two weeks later, the priests closed the apparitions to the outside public. They have been protected from anyone getting too close ever since.
Father Vlasic and his female friend, Agnes Heupel, asked Marija Pavovic to have the Virgin Mary bless their idea to have an illegal New Order of Priests and Nuns, who would live together in the same house. This blessing was given in Marija's texts, "An appeal in the Marian Year" and in "My Declaration."
When things in this new house got out of line, and the public opinion was about to explode against her and her Virgin, she wrote on July 11, 1988, a retraction:
"From the texts ... which bears my signature [approving the new house] ... That the answer would be 'That is the plan of God.' ... Now I declare that I have never asked the Madonna for any approval for this undertaking begun by Father Tomislav Vlasic and Agnes Heupel ... Anything in my statement which might be construed as the Madonna's approval of the undertaking of Father Tomislav Vlasic and Agnes Heupel is absolutely not in conformity with the truth."
What shall we say? That she lied the first time and is not lying now? That she told the truth the first time and is lying now that things are not going well? What?
What we can say for sure is that they are liars. Does that prove the apparitions false? No! But when we couple it with the complete lack of grace in the children, we have a good case. For instance, five years after seeing the Mother of God almost everyday and a thousand so-called ecstasies, Jakov still did not have enough grace to stay in Mass until the end. He then married a pageant queen, even though the Gospa had asked him to become a priest. He now wears elevator shoes because his wife is quite tall.
Our pastor was not impressed, to say the least, when he saw the seers, five minutes after having talked to the "Virgin", go across the street to have a beer and sandwich.
But in 1996 it is even getting worse. The Franciscans have been separated from their main house in Rome because of abuses of their vows. They are now studying marshal arts on the Church property instead of their religion. This is New Age.
The most probable scenario is that the children, who were known as "hippies" by American terminology, did it as a joke and then it got out of hand. They went to the Father Vlasic for help. He had just had a Charismatic say that something big was going to happen in his life. He saw opportunities running around in his head for protection from the authorities of the Church, for publicity, for money. The Croatians stick together. They have their own language. They do not hold to moral views like true Christians do. To them, the ends justify the means. Vlasic took over, the children followed his lead. But to go on with the testing, let us consider that test of "prophesy".
A major test of any apparition is "Prophesy". Almost all true apparitions of God have some short-term prophesies and some of long duration. Never will God ask us to believe a prophesy without first proving the prophet with a short-term prophesy that has already come true.
In Fatima twenty-nine of the thirty prophecies have already come to pass: the two children's early death, Communism, the miracle of the sun, the end of World War I, World War II, the fall of Russian Communism, etc. Since only God sees the future, it is one way He proves the authenticity of the seer. God cannot make mistakes, therefore, the prophecies must be 100% correct. How about Medjugorje?
On July 3, 1981, the "Virgin" promises a sign.
"It will be permanent...It will not be possible to annihilate it...It will be visible for everybody."
August 27, 1981: "It will come soon."
August 29, 1981: "A little more patience."
Later...."It will be on December 8, 1981."
Later...."It will be on Christmas."
Later...."It will be January 1982."
It is now 1996 and there is still no sign. Prophets?
According to the Bible and Catholic Doctrine we must be obedient to our superiors in all things except sin. And yet, we are asked to believe that the Virgin Mary advocates that we disobey the Bishop of Medjugorje. Again and again, throughout the years of the apparition, this "Lady" would have us believe that it is all right for the two suspended priests to disobey the Bishop. This alone would be enough to declare the apparitions to be false on grounds of Fidelity to Doctrine, but this is not the most important point. The most important point [and this seems to be the main reason for this false apparition] is pluralism.
Pluralism is a Masonic and Charismatic belief that states all religions are the same in the eyes of God. Catholic Doctrine states that "except for invincible ignorance, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church". Anyone who says that any other religion is not "against the word of God" is a heretic.
Fourth Lateran Council, 1215 AD (ex cathedra) "There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one can be saved."
Unam Sanciam 1302 (ex cathedra) "We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
Cantate Domino 1441 (ex cathedra) "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes, and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. Unless before death they are joined with her; and that so important is THE UNITY OF THIS ECCLESIASTICAL BODY that only those remaining within this UNITY can profit by the sacraments of the church unto salvation ... NO ONE, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, NO ONE, even if he pour out his blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the UNITY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH."
The same has been expressed in Vatican II, and can be found in 1 Tim. 2:4, Acts 4:12, Gal. 1:8, Tit. 3:10, 2 John 10, St. Ireneaus, St. Cyprian, St. Jerome, St. Augustine, St. Fulgentius and St. John of the Cross.
This point cannot be overlooked since the greatest promoter of these apparitions is Wayne Weible, a Protestant, who had no desire to change his religion until recently, for as he said, "She accepts us all as we are." Why did he say this? Because after 3000 apparitions the main theme is Pluralism. The words of Mirjana:
"She also frequently said that ... there is only one God and that it is the people who are separated. YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IF YOU DO NOT RESPECT THE OTHER RELIGIONS, MUSLIM AND SERBIAN, AND YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIANS IF YOU DO NOT RESPECT THEM."
Mohammed claimed to be the son of God, and Christ only a prophet. He said that any Muslim who killed a Christian did not sin any more than if he killed a dog. We must love the Muslim, but never respect his religion. We must respect truth but never lies. The person - yes; the religion - no, never.
In an interview with Ivanka, another of the seers, we hear:
Question: "It is important that people of good faith, regardless of denomination, not be turned against each other. [We agree with this.] But tell me more about this. What did the Madonna say about this?"
Ivanka: "The Madonna said that religions are separated on the earth, but THE PEOPLE OF ALL RELIGIONS ARE ACCEPTED BY HER SON."
Now, that statement ends this apparition for us. But lets continue.
Question: "So that means that all people go to Heaven?"
Ivanka: "It depends on what they deserve."
Question: "Yes, but many have never heard about Jesus."
Ivanka: "Jesus knows all about that; I don't. The Madonna said, 'BASICALLY, RELIGIONS ARE SIMILAR."
THE VIRGINS OWN WORDS:
"Tell the priest and everyone, that it is you who have divided yourselves on earth. THE MUSLIMS AND THE ORTHODOX AS WELL AS THE CATHOLICS ARE ALL EQUAL BEFORE MY SON AND BEFORE ME ..."
Shall we throw the Bible away, throw the Body and Blood of Christ away, throw Baptism away, throw unity of belief away, throw priesthood away, throw Confession away? No wonder a priest had an affair during the apparitions. No wonder an illegal order of priests and nuns [living together] has been started at Medjugorje.
Is it any wonder that all the actors of this play: Weible, Father Kraljevic, Father Laurentin, Father Rupcic, Father Pelletier, Jim Bailey, Mary Lou McCall, Dr. Miravalle, Father Vlasic, Father Tardif, Fr. Rancourt, Dr. Madre, and Mgr. Franci, all are members of the Charismatic Movement.
We just this week attended a Charismatic Prayer Group at St. Elizabeth Seton Catholic Church led by Fr. Michael Barry, Director of Charismatic Renewal for San Bernardino. In this prayer group were members of Calvary Chapel, Harvest Crusade and other Protestant cults. Every week these non-Catholics are permitted to receive communion in our Catholic Masses. The reason we attended this prayer group is to find out why they tried to trick Rick Salbato, one of our speakers, into speaking at "a Womens Retreat" with Father Barry.
Rick Salbato was a member of the Catholic Charismatic Movement for many years. They knew he would not give his support to the movement. So, they just didnt tell him who he would be talking to. Charismatics have one Masonic, Pluralistic goal, expressed very well by Mgr. Franci [the only Bishop out of the 35 Bishops of Yugoslavia that believes in the seers]:
"I see a NEW CHURCH being born beneath our eyes; the CHURCH OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ... the role of Medjugorje is to be seen above all, I believe, in this COMING TOGETHER WITH THE BROTHERS OF OTHER RELIGIONS, WITH THE MUSLIMS AND EVEN WITH THE MARXIST BROTHERS ..."
This new church will have a new song, for the seers told Father Gobbi that Mary's favorite song is "THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC. [May, 1988] This new church has been the goal of Satan for a thousand years. This new church is what the Antichrist will set up someday.
Wayne Weible now states that from the beginning of his first trip to Medjugorje he wanted to become a Catholic, but this is not the statement he printed in the first five years of his promotion of the apparitions. Then, he saw no reason to become a Catholic, the virgin did not require it.
The next test, always the most important, is obedience. Satan knows doctrine well, and he can fool many with his lies; but he cannot be obedient. His pride will not allow him even the pretense of obedience to a mere human.
Let us start with the words of Padre Pio:
"Where there is no OBEDIENCE, there is no virtue. Where there is no virtue, there is no good. Where there is no good, there is no love. Where there is no love, there is no God. Where there is no God, there is no Paradise."
By Medjugorje standards, Padre Pio had many good reasons to be disobedient. He was told by a visiting priest to burn all the testimonials to his intercession. Without a second thought, he burned them all. When Vatican II introduced the new Mass, even though he had loved the Tridentine, he changed without hesitation. He even sent a letter to the Holy Father offering his support. When Rome told him to stop saying public Mass and hearing confession, he stopped without even asking why. For six years he offered Mass in his room. We would like you to compare Medjugorje to Padre Pio.
Lets see how the actors of Medjugorje stack up to the obedience of the Padre. On December 19, 1981, only six months after the first apparition, the "Lady" said that the one most to blame for these disorders [the conflict between the Bishop and the two priests], was the Bishop [Zanic]. She told Father Vego to stay and not to go away as he was ordered. Remember that Fathers Vego and Prusina had been excluded from their Order as priests by their superiors.
On January 3, 1982, the "Virgin" said,
"Ivaca Vego is not guilty. Let him stay all the same. The Bishop is not putting things in order and for that HE IS TO BLAME. HE WILL NOT ALWAYS BE THE BISHOP."
Compare that statement of the Gospa to the statements of the Virgin Mary in all true apparitions. This is what descernment is. You see the dark by comparing it to the light. You see the difference between good and bad by placing them both in the light of truth. God does not want us just to accept by blind faith every spirit that comes our way. He wants us to seek the truth and you will find. But if you are not looking?
On January 11, 1982, Vicka notes in her diary,
"The Virgin is against the Bishop."
On January 20, 1982, the seers ask about the priests being excluded from their order by Rome. The Virgin replied,
"They are not guilty. In this decision the Bishop has acted hastily. Let them stay."
What this "Virgin" is saying is "let them disobey". This is approximately the time the priest was having an affair with the nun. But of course, maybe the Mother of God did not know that???
Between April 16 and 26, 1982, the "Virgin" spoke against the Bishop again and again. By this time all the Masses, confessions, etc., said by these priests were and still are SACRILEGIOUS.
On August 3, 1982, Bishop Zanic asks the seers to put in writing the description of the sign that had been promised by the Virgin and place it in a sealed envelope, so that if and when the sign took place, the prophesy could be checked with the facts. The seers REFUSED TO OBEY the Bishop. Ivan, however, the young boy seer, had put the information in an envelope and had kept it in his room.
On May 27, 1982, Vicka saw the Bishop at his request and gave him the diary [now 30 days long]. She gave him all but the days the Virgin spoke about the Bishop: Dec. 19, Jan. 3, Jan. 20, April 16 and April 26. The Bishop, who already knew about these notes, requested the missing diary. Vicka told him that there is no other diary and refused to give it over to them.
On June 19, 1982, the Virgin stated:
"Tell the Father Bishop that I request his urgent conversion to the events of the Medjugorje parish before it is too late. Let him begin by informing himself about all the events with great understanding, love and responsibility. I desire that he place no disunion between priests and that he should not emphasize their negative sides. I ask for his conversion to these events. I am sending him the ULTIMATE WARNING. IF HE IS NOT CONVERTED HE WILL BE CORRECTED. MY JUDGEMENT, AS WELL AS THAT OF MY SON, JESUS, WILL STRIKE HIM. If he does not put into effect what I am giving him to know, please tell him that he has not found the path of my Son, Jesus."
We are supposed to believe that these are the sweet words of the most obedient creature on the face of the earth: a Woman, who obeyed Herod and went to Bethlehem for the census even though She was nine months pregnant; who went to the Temple for purification even though she needed no purification; who circumcised Her Son, even though He needed no circumcision; who stayed outside the Last Supper Room, even though she was greater than all the Apostles?
"My judgment" are not words the Mother of God could ever say. Mary is all mercy, never judgment. God is justice, but Mary is only love, prayer, and mercy. "MY judgment will strike him." Moses made the mistake of saying that "he" could strike the rock and water would come out. Because of that statement he was not allowed to enter into the promised land. Now we are expected to believe that the most obedient Woman in history will steal the right of judgment from the Father, and take it upon herself. "I request --- I desire --- I ask --- I am --- I am" are not the words of Our Lady. No Jewish woman can use the words "I am". Jews were not allowed to say the name of God out loud. Even John, the Baptist never used them. In the Greek "I am one crying in the wilderness" actually reads, "One crying in the wilderness" because the "I am" is implied and every Jew knew it because you could not say the words out loud.
Poor Bishop Zanic! Were sure he was shaking in his boots. But let us not take too lightly this threat. Although Satan will not be able to touch the Bishop, he has been intimidated, harassed and heckled by the supporters of the seers.
Rome, in order to reward him for his courageous stand, increased the area of his jurisdiction. Thirty-four (34) of the thirty-five (35) bishops of Yugoslavia agreed with his condemnation. Only retired Charismatic Bishop Franic accepts the apparitions. And now after retirement his friend becomes the new Bishop.
On December, 1983, Bishop Zanic published, through his episcopal curia, a warning against the irresponsible propaganda of the Franciscans, and he summarized by saying:
"It seems that the promoters of Medjugorje are busy creating a situation, by means of their propaganda, such that Church authority will never dare oppose. But the Church has no need of counter truths in order to defend the faith. THE TRUTH MUST BE PRESENTED EVEN THOUGH IT IS DISAGREEABLE. And concerning the 'Virgin's support of the rebellious priests...There has been no peace in the Church of Herzegovina [Medjugorje] for fifteen years. Half the Franciscans resist the restoration of certain parishes to the diocesan clergy using as their pretext the alleged messages of the Blessed Virgin at Medjugorje. The present provincial, his collaborators and the other half of the Franciscans are working to restore peace with the Bishop. They do not believe in the apparitions. Thus, ON ACCOUNT OF MEDJUGORJE AND THE 'QUEEN OF PEACE' THERE IS EVEN MORE TENSION AND DISQUIET! Regina pacis, ora pro nobis!"
On December 26, 1983, [after Bishop Zanic condemned a book written by Father Rupcic--"The Apparitions of The Blessed Virgin at Medjugorje"] the so-called "Virgin" prayed for the success of the book.
Cardinal Kuharic, Archbishop of Zagreb, stated on January 13, 1984, "If the Virgin said such words against the Bishop in favor of the suspended Franciscans, then IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN WHO SPOKE."
On February 26, 1984, Bishop Zanic wrote to a French priest:
"The propaganda on behalf of Medjugorje is terrible. They are preparing for WAR. It is a struggle of self-assertion by a group of Franciscans...The defenders of Medjugorje are DISOBEDIENT, ..."
"L'Osservatore Romano" [the voice of Rome] published an exact account of the Communique of Bishop Zanic on July 24, 1984, FORBIDDING ALL FURTHER PUBLICATIONS OF THE LITERATURE. In spite of this, eight books have been published and distributed throughout the world. Everyone who is involved in publishing or distributing these books is COMMITTING A MORTAL SIN AGAINST OBEDIENCE. Nevertheless, a week after Rome published the order, the "Virgin" commanded:
"MAKE THE PRIESTS READ Abbe Laurentin's book and spread it."
August 7, 1984, Bishop Zanic, forbid the seers from using the Church building for the apparitions. The priests and seers refused to obey. On October 30, 1984, Bishop Zanic again commanded that the apparitions not take place in the parish buildings. Again the priests and seers refused to obey. On the same day, the Bishop published his report:
"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY WHO IS APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."
On November 12, 1984, at La Croix, the bishops of Yugoslavia declared that no pilgrimages shall go to Medjugorje. No outside priest is to say Mass without Bishop Zanic's permission.
Instead of being obedient to the Bishop, Father Laurentin, author of most of the disobedient books, wrote in a major Catholic newspaper:
"Pilgrimages are disapproved by the Bishop. People must continue going to Medjugorje. It will be necessary to speak of 'Spiritual journeys' instead of Pilgrimages."
In other words, if we call it something else, we are not sinning by going to Medjugorje. How retarded does Laurentin think we Catholics are???? However, read any advertisement for trips to Medjugorje, and you will see not only the word "Pilgrimages" but also priests leading the groups.
In November of 1984, Bishop Zanic received a letter from a former Franciscan nun. She said that she had worked in Zagreb with one of the priests of Medjugorje. She named the priest. She had a baby. She asked the Bishop for financial help. She was unable to get help from the priest. Vego, himself, admitted in 1988 that he had never seen the child, does not want to see the child, was not supporting the child, and just wanted to forget the whole thing. God has forgotten it, he said. What about the poor nun? After the 1988 letter, Vego married the nun.
On March 25, 1986, Bishop Zanic published another decree making sure that no one be mistaken by Laurentin's stupidity.
"I had asked that the doings of Medjugorje be slowly stifled and brought to an end, but everything is continuing as before. This is a disgrace. Consequently, I NOW DEMAND of you without indulgence the following:
1) That the seers hereafter be prevented from appearing in public.
2) That there be an end to apparitions in the parish church. That the seers have them in their homes as they did during the summer of 1981.
3) That from ten days hence, without any hesitation, the new statue of the Virgin modeled on the apparition and placed before the altar be removed. That the old statue be replaced.
4) That all talk of the apparitions must cease and that no messages are to be divulged.
5) That devotion developed as a result of the apparitions and in accordance with the messages linked thereto be brought to an end.
6) That THE SALE of souvenirs and publications propagating the apparitions cease. The people may still, however, go to confession, and Mass may be celebrated.
7) I DO NOT ALLOW PRIESTS FROM OUTSIDE TO CELEBRATE MASS IN THE PARISH OR TO PREACH, Friars Jozo Zovka, Tomislav Vlasic and Ljudevit Rupcic in particular.
8) The seers must hand over all that they have written (the 'Life of the Virgin Mary' in particular) for there are no grounds for secrecy justifying the refusal to communicate this material. Diaries and writings are public deeds and exercise a great influence on the events of Medjugorje. Consequently, all these documents and this material must come under the control of the Bishop's House and be made subject to inquiry. We hope that you will carry out all that is demanded of you in this letter. I greet you and with you the divine blessing.
On April 6, 1986, the Franciscan priests wrote a letter to the Bishop refusing to obey any of his commands. Two days before this, the children pass on another contradiction from their goddess who had already said the apparitions would end. But of course, this would have been a big problem for the Franciscans, considering the letter of the Bishop. They needed continuous support from the "last word in faith", the voices of the children:
"Today is the day when I thought of giving you no more messages because some of you do not accept me. But the parish has been put on the move and I desire to give you messages in A WAY THAT HAS NOT EXISTED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD."
On April 10, 1986, Vicka refuses to give over the manuscripts to the Commission of Inquiry. Instead the "Virgin" now orders it to be published by a Franciscan of her choice.
On May 23, 1986, Bishop Bovone, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith [Rome], sent Bishop Caporello, Secretary of the Italian Episcopal Conference, a reminder that pilgrimages and publicity are forbidden. The Franciscans and seers still do not obey.
In July of 1986, Vicka refused to give over her writings to the Bishop's Commission again.
In 1978, Rome [L'Osservatore Romano] again publishes the Bishop's commands. When the attitude of Rome becomes very, very blunt, Father Slavic finally gives up seeking approval from the Church. He commits the ultimate heresy with the following written statement:
"At Medjugorje the apparition has no need of official recognition. THE VIRGIN HAS NOT ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED AT MEDJUGORJE --- She has said, 'I am the Queen of Peace' and not 'I am Mary, who desires to be recognized in the Church."
We don't even need to comment on that sick statement.
Regarding the alleged quote of the Holy Father to twelve Italian bishops: "Let the people go to Medjugorje if they convert, pray, confess, do penance and fast ..."
This statement is NOT TRUE, and is another example of the lies being spread by the promoters. Archbishop Pio Laghi, the Apostolic Pro-Nuncio on March 1, 1988, wrote to Joseph E. O'Connor:
"Although there have been made observations about Medjugorje attributed to the Holy Father and other officials of the Holy See, NONE OF THESE HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED AS AUTHENTIC ... The fact that the statements have been publicized in L'Osservature Romano, the newspaper of the Vatican, indicates that the local hierarchy has the backing of the Holy See."
Again responding to Joseph OConnor on August 21 the apostolic Pro-Nuncio stated that regarding the Bishops Conference of Yugoslavia in 1987 and the statements of Bishop Pavao Zanic,
"This office is not aware of anything issued by the Holy See which would discredit this pronouncement. While it was not issued by the Holy See, it deserves to be respected as the phenomena comes under the jurisdiction of the local hierarchy."
Not only that, but Rick Salbato, President of Unity Publishing, Inc., went to the Vatican and talked to Edward Cardinal Gagnon, who was called the Pope's friend. He said without any qualification that no such words ever came out of the Holy Father. In fact, in 1990 both the Vatican Pro- Nuncio, Laghi and Cardinal Ratzinger referred to the statement signed in LOsservatore Romano by Cardinal Kuharic and Bishop Zanic as the official position of the Church. So much for truth!
Father Robert J. Fox, the Fatima Priest, writing a review of Wayne Weibles book, states,
"Archbishop Pio Laghi has advised that the commonly quoted favorable remarks attributed to the Pope encouraging people to go to Medjugorje, cannot be substantiated."
Why then are these reports going out all over the world? Because the promoters of Medjugorje hired a retired bishop, who just happened to retire in Rome, Bishop Paul Hnilica, to promote Medjugorje in Rome. Most of these statements of the Holy Father came from Hnilica in 1989. What we know about him is that he has been accused of embezzling millions of dollars, and has been convicted by the Italian court system of stealing documents from Rome. Over 100 million dollars was skimmed out of Medjugorje and "laundered through an Italian bank. This was then used as collateral to float loans from 10 European banks for a billion dollars. This caused some smaller banks in Europe to collapse because the loans were not paid back because of the war and lack of pilgrims to Medjugorje.
In the June 30, 1996 issue of The National Catholic Register (a pro-Medjugorje Magazine), it was stated,
"Vatican spokesman Jauquin Navarro-Valis said in a June 19 note to the press that the Church retains its official position of skepticism toward the alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje. Navarro-Valis message said "no new facts had been presented on the validity of the alleged apparitions that have attracted 20 million pilgrims in the last 15 years. The message said that for now the Vatican must respect the competence of the local bishops regarding the matter."
However, on August 21, 1996, the same Vatican spokesman told Catholic News Service that although dioceses may not organize pilgrimages, "You cannot say people cannot go there until it has been proven false. This has not been said, so anyone can go if they want." We must stress that officially Rome has not condemned Medjugorje, but has left the present position of the Local Bishop stand until investigation is completed. We know the investigation is completed, however, and the Vatican is waiting for the politically correct moment to announce it.
The truth about Romes position is best stated by Fr. Philip Pavich (OFM). Father Philip Pavich has been living and hearing confessions in Medjugorje for 15 years. In the beginning he was a believer. He told us how the new Bishop of Medjugorje was picked by the Vatican. It turns out that he was living and working in Rome when Bishop Zanic was taking his case to the Vatican. When Bishop Zanic visited the Vatican he stayed with the present Bishop, who was his best friend and shared his opinions on the apparitions. When Bishop Zanic retired, the Vatican made sure that a Bishop already sharing Bishop Zanics views was appointed.
"This being the case," said Father Pavich, "how can we say that Rome does not share Bishop Zanics opinions?" Father Pavich remains in Medjugorje at the direction of his superiors in Rome. He wants to leave. He does not believe in the apparitions. He is forced to hear confessions up to 10 hours a day, because the other Franciscan priests are too busy studying marshal arts [New Age] against direct orders of their superiors.
Not one of the 42 bishops of Yugoslavia nor one of the diocesan priests in the area believe in the apparitions. Why then do those who are not in the area and do not know all the facts hold on to their beliefs even to the disobedience to the Church? The new bishop has not only condemned the apparitions but he has made a blistering attack against the new film, "Gospa". When he restated his positions regarding the Franciscans leaving the Church, he was kidnapped and held as a prisoner. The Nuncio to the Vatican had to go get him out.
Although there is no written index anymore, [there are so many books on the market today it would not be possible], the Catholic Directory states in part,
"It is not necessary that a book be listed in the index to be forbidden. There are twelve classes of publications that are forbidden by general law (cc. 831, 832). In brief, these are: --- 2) books that by argument defend heresy or schism or tend to undermine religion; 5) also works on visions and other supernatural phenomena published without approval; 6) books that attack Catholic dogma or the hierarchy or defend errors condemned by the Holy See; 11) books propagating false indulgences; 12) printed images of Our Lord, the Blessed Virgin, the angels, saints, or other servants of God, which are not in keeping with the teaching of the Church."
Promoters of Medjugorje are in violation of 2, 5, 6, 11, and 12 because they defend the heresy of "pluralism", advocate disobedience to the bishop, publish without approval, give false claims about indulgences, and print images of the Virgin that have no Catholic approval.
Wayne Weible, the biggest of these promoters, in a talk at St. Francis Catholic Church in Vista, CA, October 23, 1996, gave in detail the so-called "obedient position" of the backers of Medjugorje. The following is a letter we wrote to him.
Mr. Wayne Weible,
P O Box 2647
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, 29578
We attended your talk in Vista last week and we have some questions regarding some of your statements. Your main talk was very good and we were glad to see you place the main emphasis on the Mass, since it is the greatest of all miracles. However, in the question and answer period you made some statements that we would like you to back up.
You stated correctly that Rome passed judgment by stating that they could not find anything supernatural in the apparitions. You then stated that this was the same wording used in Fatima and Lourdes. We have studied every book on Fatima and Lourdes and cannot find any Bishop, priest, or even person, who ever made such a statement.
We ask that you produce the evidence of these accusations. The fact is that no condemnation of Fatima or Lourdes ever happened. The words "Consiet de non supernaturalate" (It is established that there is nothing supernatural here), and "Non constat de supernaturalitalate" - (It is not established that something supernatural is here.) have both been used at Medjugorje but never at Fatima and Lourdes. These two statements are the official method of the Church to declare a private revelation false, since if it is not supernatural (meaning "from God"), then it must be fraud or from some other spirit. For the Church of Rome to say, "not supernatural" in spite of the millions who claim to have seen miracles, makes a major statement in itself.
The next thing you stated was that the Church cannot end the investigation as long as apparitions are still going on. This is also not true. Any proof you can produce to the contrary would be appreciated. Fatima, you will agree, has been approved, and yet, the apparitions to Lucia are still going on. Mirna Nazzour of Damascus has been approved by her Bishop and three Vatican Pro Nuncios, and yet, the apparitions and miracles are still going on.
You state that the real proof of the authenticity of the apparitions is that after 15 years, millions still believe in it. By this criteria, we can say the same of Arianism, Protestantism, and the New Age.
Looking forward to your response
Unity Publishing, Inc.
Answer: Not yet!
This is just a summary of the obedience of the seers, the actors, and the so-called "Virgin of Medjugorje".
On May 25, 1984, the so-called "Virgin" commanded that her 2000th anniversary be celebrated on August 5th. Bishop Zanic forbid the request. The "Virgin" then demanded that the feast of her birthday be celebrated on the 5th of August instead of the 8th of September. What about the Feast of the Immaculate Conception? Will that have to be changed also?
God will not contradict Himself. Nor will a true seer contradict another true seer. Since Catherine Emmerich, Therese Neumann, Mary Agreda, and the Church have said that Mary was born on September 8th, what are we to make of this woman of Medjugorje?
In fact, Mirna of Damascus received four different apparitions on the eve of September 8th. One in that same year, 1984. On the following eve of September 8th, 1985, Christ said, "I am the creator. I created Her to give Me life..."
We have in our possession a written statement by the Franciscan priest of Medjugorje, Father Slavko Barbaric, and signed by his translator, John T. Shindler. It contains many questions to be presented to the Gospa through the visionaries.
These are some of the questions and the answers by the Gospa (Virgin?):
Question 2. When does a baby receive a living soul?
Answer by Gospa: "Four and one half months."
Question 4. What about UFOs? Are they true?
Answer by Gospa "Yes."
Question 7. Where Adolf Hitler, Marshal Tito, and
Pope Paul VI replaced by evil doubles during
Answer by Gospa: "Yes. They were good men replaced
by evil red doubles.
Question 8. Did you appear at Necedah, Wisconsin?
Answer by Gospa: "Yes. But no one listened, not the
bad bishops of U.S.
The answer to Question 2 would legalize almost all abortions; Question 4 needs no comment; the answer to Question 7 is the same as the apparitions at Bayside, and 8 will prove to be the same fruits in the long run. At Necedah, the seer died out of the grace of the Church and did not even receive a Church burial. Necedah has been taken over by the priests and bishops of the heretical sect, "The Old Roman Catholics", who split from the Church after Vatican I.
We have complete reports on Bayside and Necedah. One of our contributors lived at Necedah for six years with his entire family. If the Gospa supports Necedah, she (or he) is not from God.
THE MOVIE "GOSPA"
Regarding the movie, "Gospa", it is better that we say nothing besides what the new bishop of Medjugorje has already said in his published and sealed letter sent all over the world to all who would promote or even see the movie.
"Falsehoods on film
"The Chancery office of the Diocese of Mostar in Bosnia and Herzegovina feels it necessary to make the following statement regarding the film "Gospa" (our Lady) which has been showing throughout the world from April of this year. While leaving the artistic evaluation of the film to competent film critics, we shall focus our attention on its religious and ecclesiastical content.
"1) An abuse of a holy name. From the religious title of the film "Gospa", a believer would expect a lot more religious content in the film: Marian and Mariological studies, or messages of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Christ. Yet, in the film, despite its title "Gospa", there is little said on Mary, the Mother of God. This most holy name of the most blessed amongst women seems to have been used towards promoting worldly personal or group interests and ideas. The honor of the Immaculate Mother of God, full of grace, does not allow her name to be used as a commercial or to promote propaganda.
"2) A false presentation of the Bishop. The Chancery office of the Diocese of Mostar, resolutely rejects as untrue all the scenes and words regarding the ecclesiastical behavior of Msgr. Pavao Zanic, the former diocesan Bishop (under the name of Peter Subic in the film) with respect to the events of Medjugorje. One cannot claim freedom of artistic expression of the director or scenarios, by presenting falsehoods on the head Church official without any basis in reality. Bishop Zanic made an official statement in mid-August 1981 on the phenomenon regarding Medjugorje (Glas Koncila, 16/1981, 1). Not even a shadow of cowardliness or easing off of the bishop before the communist authorities were ever in question, let alone any type of collaboration with them, as con be concluded by watching the film. Instead, the bishop always behaved in a courageous and dignified way. This can be seen from the Bishops letter of protest to the President of the then State Presidency, Sergej Kreigher, of 1 September 1981, in which the Bishop with indignation condemned all the meaningless slanderous attacks against some Franciscans, including Fra Jozo Zovko, and himself. The Bishop wrote: As Catholic bishop and head of the Diocese of Mostar, I condemn all these irresponsible slanderous attacks against myself and my priests mentioned, which in no way contribute to a sober evaluation of the events in the parish of Medjugorje. These offensive measures discriminate against our civil and human rights. I ask that you heed this protest of mine and that you as the most responsible person in SFRJ (the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) take the most urgent action necessary against such irresponsible blunders. (Crkva na Kamenu, 9-10/1981, 1) To present Bishop Zanic as a collaborator with the communists and as a weakling in conversation with a Franciscan while talking about Medjugorje, contradicts all the Bishops public sermons and statements which are will known regarding these events, especially regarding the mentioned Franciscan priest. As a living witness, Bishop Zanic can also still testify to the truth to everyone!
"3) It is truly regrettable that the film titled "Gospa" presents as its protagonist and symbol of the hundreds of Catholic priests who were tortured and martyred in Croatia and Bosnia-Hercegovina in the past, a single living religious priest who was just born when others were dying for their faith and fatherland and who has for years now been in irregular standing with his Church! A film which abused the name of our Lady, which does not shy away from an incorrect and insulting presentation of the local Bishop "
There is, of course, the possibility of fraud. The apparitions are staged. The children know exactly what time the "Virgin" will appear. They do not go into any ecstasy. They leave the room with the priests. He talks to them and gives them a paper in his handwriting. They come back to the room and read the message. Any self-respecting sorcerer or common magician would do much better than that.
Documentation of just the first three years shows thirty lies by the seers, and hundreds of lies by the actors of this play: the priests and the promoters, especially Laurentin.
There are rumors of laser lights to produce signs in the sun. There are hundreds of cases of eye-burn from looking into the sun. There is a case of a reported cure where the PERSON CURED IS, IN FACT, DEAD. It is still listed as a cure. Of the thousands of claims, there is not one cure that has been proven. The closest thing to a cure is Rita Klaus, but there has never been any proof that she really had M. S. One might think it strange that the communist government supported (or at least allowed) the apparitions. The possibility of fraud is great.
It could be that the priests, faced with expulsion, planned to have the apparition simply to support their desire to stay in the parish. It got out of hand and now then cant stop the thing. It probably got way out of hand and it was, after all, a communist government. Now there is the problem of the war and expulsion from the parish.
Considering that two of the priests were having affairs with nuns at the time, where would they go to make a living in a war torn country if they left the parish? Consider also what will happen to the children if everything is admitted. What would the Government do?
But would a priest have gone that far? Who else were they having affairs with? This is not an unfair question considering the past. You have read about the new order of priests and nuns living together, havent you?
However, there are two problems with the idea of fraud. Any fraud of this magnitude would have been well planned and all actors would have been coordinated. Satan and his demons have one big weakness - pride. They cannot do anything in a simple, humble way. Everything is like one showing off power, and always bigger and better than anything else. Mary, on the other hand, is calm, holy, humble, and very, very motherly. Her presence brings peace and calmness to the soul. Lets look closer at the appartions.
On the first apparition there was terror and panic.
"What's up?" shouted Vicka. "Is there a snake?"
"No! Not a snake!"
Vicka ran up, but the sight of the apparition frightened her so much that, seized with fear, she slipped off her shoes and ran away.
"We all shouted and pulled faces."
On the second apparition, Mirjana asked for a sign to show the people. The hands on her watch turned. [A typical occult trick! Any true New Age member can do it.]
On the third apparition, Vicka was pushed or pulled off the road by unseen hands, and suddenly the Virgin appeared. [Motherly?]
On the fourth apparition, Maria was violently and mysterious propelled to the top of the hill.
[Calm and peaceful?]
On September 4, 1981, Vicka wrote in her diary:
"We questioned Her about the man, who saw Jesus in the street, when he was driving people in his car. He met a man who was all bloodstained--this man was Jesus--He gave him a bloodstained handkerchief telling him to throw it into the river. Going on his way, he met a lady--It was the Blessed Virgin Mary--She asked the driver for the bloodstained handkerchief. The man gave her a handkerchief belonging to himself, but the Virgin asked for the bloodstained one. The Virgin said:
'IF HE HAD NOT GIVEN IT TO ME, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST JUDGMENT FOR ALL.'
"The Virgin said the story was true."
[We are supposed to believe that this is the sweet loving Mother of God. How dim-witted does Satan think we are? But the next apparition tells the entire story.]
On January 10, 1982, Mirjana tells of a strange apparition where from the light which normally precedes the Virgin's arrival, SATAN EMERGED, HALF DIABOLICAL, HALF DISGUISED UNDER THE FEATURES OF MARY. Finally the vision of Satan changed entirely into a vision of Mary.
"The Virgin programmed the entire sequence in order to test us." said Mirjana.
Or could it be that God allowed the children to see the truth, but they have not accepted the truth to this day? True, False, or Demonic, what? This virgin has said that UFOs are real, that Pope Paul VI was replaced by an "evil red double" [same as Bayside], and that Necedah, Wisconsin, in America is a true apparition of Mary, but that the bad bishops of America did not accept Her. If fraud, would they risk supporting UFOs, Bayside, and Necedah? If demonic, wouldnt he want to support his own works? Demons love to do stupid things and have people believe in them so that they can laugh at God.
If it is demonic, the question always comes up again and again, "Why would Satan do something that makes people stop sinning and become holy?" What would he have to gain?
The answer to that question is very simple. It is the "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT". Scripture says that all sins are forgivable, but a sin against the Holy Spirit is not forgivable in this life or in the life to come."
How is that possible? The Holy Spirit is Divine Love. He is Divine Mercy. He is the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He is the love of the Son for the Father and the Father for the Son.
The Doctrine of the Faith, Bishop Sheen, and Pope John Paul II all say the same thing. The unforgivable sin of the Twentieth Century is the denial of sin.
The sin against the Holy Spirit is the denial of sin. A prostitute knows that she is sinning and, at the moment of death, she could repent of her sins and go to Heaven. That is all it takes to go to Heaven. The only reason people fall into Hell like SNOW FLAKES is that they believe that they are not sinners, and hence, at the moment of death, they are not repentant. God cannot forgive an unrepentant sinner. If they do not ask forgiveness, God cannot forgive them.
What does all this have to do with Medjugorje? The so-called Virgin of Medjugorje has only three messages.
1)That all religions are the same in the eyes of God.
2) That the Born-Again Charismatic Movement is of the Holy Spirit.
3) That the Charismatic Movement will bring all churches together into a New Church called the Church of the Holy Spirit. A church without Doctrine and therefore without FAITH. Each person in this new church will decide for himself what is right and wrong, what he believes or does not believe. Truth will not matter.
All three of these things have the same result. No one sins If God sees all religions the same, then the Bible is a lie. All of the Old Testament and all of the New Testament speaks constantly about false doctrine. In the Epistles of Paul, John, James, Jude, and Peter, false doctrine is condemned with the sentence of Hell.
The Protestant Churches came into the world to bring a denial of most sins. Martin Luther denied all sins. King Henry VIII denied adultery. All deny Apostolic priesthood. Most deny the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Mohammed denies Christ as God.
If we believe these untruths are not a sin, and die believing in them, Satan has won our souls. Why? Because we are believing in a false word of God, a false Christ.
If we believe, as Charismatics do, that after we have received the "Spirit" we cannot sin, Satan has won our souls.
Again, Why? We see a new Satanic Church prophesied by Catherine Emmerich. We see an International, all denominational church of the Spirit. The next pope (as prophesied by Don Bosco, Malachi and many others] will be one of the holiest popes in history. What if, and this is just conjecture, what if, all over the world, at the same time, the "Virgin" of Bayside, of Garabandal, of Mexico, of Medjugorje, of the Charismatics and all the other false apparitions [all at once-in a single voice] said that the true pope was the anti-Christ?
Who would you believe? The Church? The Cardinals? Or would you believe the messages of the seers?
Keep in mind that the Church and only the Church can make decisions in these matters. The Church has spoken on Medjugorje. Further investigations will produce nothing new. In the case of Medjugorje, both Bishops have spoken. They have stated over and over that this is not of God. Thirty-four bishops of Yugoslavia agree with them. Rome agrees with them. But in spite of all this, we would like to give our opinion on the apparitions.
Consider that Yugoslavia is world famous for two things; the most nude beaches in the world, and the start of World War I. It seems likely Satan could have had an opening in the void of grace around Medjugorje.
We believe that in the beginning it was not fraud. It was Satan appearing as Mary to the frightened children, maybe even the first two years. The reasons we will explain later. We believe that the Franciscans and the world-wide Charismatics saw this as a great opportunity to prop up a failing movement. When Satan stopped appearing, they would not let it end. An end would give the Church a chance for a final condemnation, and they had more messages they wanted to propagate all over the world. What better way than the Mother of God, Herself?
Speaking in tongues is promoted at Medjugorje, but the Rosary is not. Oh, yes! The people who go there pray the Rosary, and we have seen three rosaries that were changed to brass. When asked about the Rosary, the children said that they say it sometimes. Considering that they say we should take at least ten minutes to say an Our Father, a complete Rosary would take 32.5 hours to say. No wonder they do not say it. After over 1000 apparitions, not one apparition mentioned the Rosary, the Scapular, First Saturdays, the threat of Russia, the Immaculate Conception, or the twin Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
Satan is an angel "from" Heaven. He would not be so stupid as to do what is now happening at Medjugorje. Yes! We think he started the whole thing. But he was smart enough to stop at the proper time. The Franciscan Charismatics were not that receptive. They saw the opportunity.
In a newsletter published by Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity in St. Parres-Les-Vaudes, France, it was reported that Sister Lucy of Fatima told one of her relatives that is not the Virgin Mary appearing at Medjugorje.
We personally talked with her spiritual director, Father Messias Coeher [also the publisher of the official Fatima Magazine in Fatima]. He stated to us and to CUF members in each of four talks in Detroit, that Lucy had stated over and over again that it was not the Virgin Mary appearing at Medjugorje. He gave out her mailing address and said that there were nuns there who would translate from almost every language. He suggested that everyone should get the information first hand. Her address is:
Sister Lucia De Jesus
Convento De Santa Terresa
The address of Father Pavich [who lives in Medjugorje and who hears the confessions of those who go there] is:
Fr. Philip Pavich (OFM)
St. James Church
He, too, has first-hand information about the seers and the promoters of Medjugorje, and next March he will retire from Medjugorje and be able to give out all the information he has gathered over 15 years. So, this is our conclusion, without any apology and without any reservations:
Bishop Zanic said:
"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."
Archbishop, Cardinal Kuharic said:
"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."
Lucia of Fatima said, Do not go there ---
"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."
Therefore, we say,
"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."
We are sorry if it is not the answer you wanted to here, but our work and our prayer is unity in truth and in love. Our love must be to the truth first. Anything that is not the truth will end up in the worst of all bad fruits, "divisions within the Body of Christ". Maybe you have not liked what we have to say, but someday you will learn to love our honest love of the truth.
On the Cross, Christ was pulled and stretched so far in order to fit the cross, His arms were dislocated at the sockets. He was almost pulled apart. The Church is the Body of Christ. Satan wants to do the same to this Body of Christ, and he is doing a great and dreadful job.
In this Twentieth Century Satan is making an all out effort to destroy Christ's Church. He is attacking it on the left with liberal theologians like Teilhard de Chardin, Hans Kung, Rudolf Bultman, M. Fox, Cullen Murphy; Karl Rahner, Ed Schillebeeckx, and Monika Hellwig, by liberal philosophers like Descartes, Kant, Nietzsche, Rousseau, Voltaire, Marx and Hegel; by new religions like Psychology, Psychiatry, Sociology, Penticostalism, Spiritualism and Pluralism; and by anti-Catholic newspapers like THE AMERICAN CATHOLIC and THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER.
The Kingdom of Christ is attacked on the right by all the Holier-than-thou movements: the Traditionalists, The Old Roman Catholics, The Pius X Society, and THE FATIMA CRUSADER.
As these groups start to lose their appeal to the masses, Satan comes along with his signs and wonders to give them support. On the liberal side, he supports the Charismatics with Medjugorje, Gobbi and Gino. On the conservative side, he supports his religions with Necedah, Bayside, the Pebble, and statues crying water.
All these false apparitions, whether to the right or the left, have common traits. They make Catholics distrust the shepherds, the bishops. They divide one group against another group. They criticize, accuse, threaten, and frighten. They control with appeals to ego [special chosen groups] and with threats of disasters for those who do not follow.
Unity of truth means nothing. Unity of seers is everything.
These false apparitions will not go away by themselves. Necedah is still with us and growing. Someday they will all unite and the ramifications will be diabolical. We must stop them now. We must bury them. We must chain this mad dog.