From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/23/06 20:54:51 To: Father Celso Subject: A Divine Will Blog---your opinion?
Father Celso,
I've been doing some research. Now I know the difference, what I've missed in my studies of the Divine Will Spirituality. I came across a very good Divine Will blog that seemed to explain it all, though a response from a blogger named "Robert." "Robert's" Comment (#3) I wanted to know what you think of this explanation, and, I wanted to make sure I stay on the straight and narrow, so to speak. He says:
How to Read the Writings of Luisa Piccarreta in the Catholic Way To read in a Catholic way the sublime writings of Luisa Piccarreta, a soul must have the humility to recognize that these Volumes are a diary between Jesus and Luisa, Luisa and Jesus. Unfortunately, many forget this most important first "Truth." Some unfortunately have eliminated Luisa’s words, only quoting Jesus, and others have done worse by eliminating Luisa completely or marginalizing her and putting their name in Luisa’s place. This "Gift" of gifts, this "Prodigy" of prodigies, was given to Luisa and first formed in her so that we also can be formed like Luisa in order to receive this "Gift." We must live in our nothingness and be so little that Jesus sees Luisa in us. That means that we must read, study, and put into practice these "Truths" that Jesus dictated to Luisa, as Luisa read, studied, and put into practice all that Jesus taught her. Jesus wants us to be linked to Luisa in order to receive this "Gift." Jesus in the writings tells Luisa that she has an un-severed "umbilical" cord to the womb of the Most Holy Trinity, and Jesus states that those who want to "Live in" the Divine Will must have an un-severed "umbilical" cord to the womb of Luisa. This is how one is to be linked: it is not a lifeless cord, not a metal chain, not a rope; it is a living lifeline connecting to Luisa, receiving the life of the Trinity through Luisa. Then and only then do we really and truly become the little children of the Most Holy Divine Will, and we can call Luisa our "little mama."
To be on the right track in understanding the Doctrine of the Divine Will, three things are most important. Number one, in all our acts, in all our rounds, we must be one with Luisa; we must echo Luisa; we must go to Luisa; we must plead with Luisa; we must pray to Luisa. This will prove to Jesus that we have an understanding of the beautiful diary of the Divine Will. Otherwise, one does not understand the diary of Luisa. As one continues to read, study, and put into practice the "Truths" of the Volumes, one begins to realize that next to Jesus, Mary, and Adam before the Fall is Luisa, who is the only one born of original sin, who possesses the fullness of the Divine Will. As Jesus through Our Lady brought about the Kingdom of Redemption 2000 years ago, Jesus and Mary now through Luisa will bring the Kingdom of Sanctification, which is the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in Heaven, the fulfillment of the prayer of the Our Father.
The second important point to understand is that the first one, next to Luisa, to possess this "Gift" of gifts, this "Prodigy" of prodigies, to "Live in" Its fullness, will be the Holy Father. The Pope holds the keys of the Kingdom and he will open the doors to all the world, so there will be one Church, one flock, one shepherd.
The third point is you must have a priest to teach you the Divine Will. This is the only way that Jesus explains to Luisa that the Divine Will shall be given: through the priests. Jesus teaches that as the priest is in charge of the Holy Eucharist, the second bread, and gives the Holy Eucharist to the peoples, the priest will also be in charge of the first bread, the Divine Will, the food, as Jesus says in the Gospel, "that you do not know of… ." The priest will also give this food to the peoples. If one has understood the "Truths" taught to Luisa, by Jesus Himself, one realizes that it can certainly not be a layperson’s responsibility to teach the Divine Will.
If you do not have a priest to teach you, please go to your priests, go to your pastor, and present him with *The Hours of the Passion dictated by Jesus Christ to Luisa, *The Virgin Mary in the Kingdom of the Divine Will dictated to Luisa by the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the Biography by Fr. Bucci: *The Memoirs of Aunt Rosaria. These are the three writings that everyone who begins to learn about the Divine Will must start out with in order to get a clear understanding of these most sublime writings. Please let the priest or pastor know of your interest in the Divine Will, and ask him to help your soul in understanding the "Gift" of gifts of the Divine Will. God will take care of the rest.
Father Celso, is "Robert" explaining Divine Will spirituality correctly?
Thank you, and God Bless you in the Divine Will.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 09/25/06 07:38:40 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: A Divine Will Blog---your opinion?
Dear Billy de Goat,
God bless you and your family in the Most Holy Divine Will.
Yes, This is good!
God is so good!
Fiat!
Fr. Thomas
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From: Billy de Goat To: Father Celso Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:54 PM Subject: A Divine Will Blog---your opinion?
I've been doing some research. Now I know the difference, what I've missed in my studies of the Divine Will Spirituality. I came across a very good Divine Will blog that seemed to explain it all, though a response from a blogger named "Robert." "Robert's" Comment (#3)I wanted to know what you think of this explanation, and, I wanted to make sure I stay on the straight and narrow, so to speak. He says:
How to Read the Writings of Luisa Piccarreta in the Catholic Way To read in a Catholic way the sublime writings of Luisa Piccarreta, a soul must have the humility to recognize that these Volumes are a diary between Jesus and Luisa, Luisa and Jesus. Unfortunately, many forget this most important first "Truth." Some unfortunately have eliminated Luisa’s words, only quoting Jesus, and others have done worse by eliminating Luisa completely or marginalizing her and putting their name in Luisa’s place. This "Gift" of gifts, this "Prodigy" of prodigies, was given to Luisa and first formed in her so that we also can be formed like Luisa in order to receive this "Gift." We must live in our nothingness and be so little that Jesus sees Luisa in us. That means that we must read, study, and put into practice these "Truths" that Jesus dictated to Luisa, as Luisa read, studied, and put into practice all that Jesus taught her. Jesus wants us to be linked to Luisa in order to receive this "Gift." Jesus in the writings tells Luisa that she has an un-severed "umbilical" cord to the womb of the Most Holy Trinity, and Jesus states that those who want to "Live in" the Divine Will must have an un-severed "umbilical" cord to the womb of Luisa. This is how one is to be linked: it is not a lifeless cord, not a metal chain, not a rope; it is a living lifeline connecting to Luisa, receiving the life of the Trinity through Luisa. Then and only then do we really and truly become the little children of the Most Holy Divine Will, and we can call Luisa our "little mama."
To be on the right track in understanding the Doctrine of the Divine Will, three things are most important. Number one, in all our acts, in all our rounds, we must be one with Luisa; we must echo Luisa; we must go to Luisa; we must plead with Luisa; we must pray to Luisa. This will prove to Jesus that we have an understanding of the beautiful diary of the Divine Will. Otherwise, one does not understand the diary of Luisa. As one continues to read, study, and put into practice the "Truths" of the Volumes, one begins to realize that next to Jesus, Mary, and Adam before the Fall is Luisa, who is the only one born of original sin, who possesses the fullness of the Divine Will. As Jesus through Our Lady brought about the Kingdom of Redemption 2000 years ago, Jesus and Mary now through Luisa will bring the Kingdom of Sanctification, which is the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in Heaven, the fulfillment of the prayer of the Our Father.
The second important point to understand is that the first one, next to Luisa, to possess this "Gift" of gifts, this "Prodigy" of prodigies, to "Live in" Its fullness, will be the Holy Father. The Pope holds the keys of the Kingdom and he will open the doors to all the world, so there will be one Church, one flock, one shepherd.
The third point is you must have a priest to teach you the Divine Will. This is the only way that Jesus explains to Luisa that the Divine Will shall be given: through the priests. Jesus teaches that as the priest is in charge of the Holy Eucharist, the second bread, and gives the Holy Eucharist to the peoples, the priest will also be in charge of the first bread, the Divine Will, the food, as Jesus says in the Gospel, "that you do not know of… ." The priest will also give this food to the peoples. If one has understood the "Truths" taught to Luisa, by Jesus Himself, one realizes that it can certainly not be a layperson’s responsibility to teach the Divine Will.
If you do not have a priest to teach you, please go to your priests, go to your pastor, and present him with *The Hours of the Passion dictated by Jesus Christ to Luisa, *The Virgin Mary in the Kingdom of the Divine Will dictated to Luisa by the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the Biography by Fr. Bucci: *The Memoirs of Aunt Rosaria. These are the three writings that everyone who begins to learn about the Divine Will must start out with in order to get a clear understanding of these most sublime writings. Please let the priest or pastor know of your interest in the Divine Will, and ask him to help your soul in understanding the "Gift" of gifts of the Divine Will. God will take care of the rest.
Father Celso, is "Robert" explaining Divine Will spirituality correctly?
Thank you, and God Bless you in the Divine Will.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/25/06 19:17:41 To: Father Celso Subject: Luisa's prayers---questions
Father Thomas,
Greetings!
Thank you for all your help so far.
I have some questions regarding Luisa's prayers. You say we're to address Luisa as our Virgin Mama or Virgin Mother, right? So with regards to the parts of the three prayers I highlighted in bold, below, are we addressing the Virgin Mary or the Luisa when we say "Mother" or "Virgin Mother" or "Virgin Mama?" In the second prayer, it appears we're addressing both the Luisa, and the Virgin Mary, right? In the second prayer, I underlined the part that I interpret to pertain to the Virgin Mary, since it mention's an Immaculate heart. In the third prayer, are we addressing the Virgin Mary as "Mother" through the whole of the prayer, or are we addressing Luisa?
The prayer's I've referenced are below my signature.
Thank you so much. May the Perfect Love of God reign in our hearts! [At this point, I was beginning to have ethical problems with my little deception (allowing Father Celso to believe I was an eager student of the Divine Will), so I included this quote in order to give Father Celso a clue that I was no longer a follower of Luisa Piccarreta. The clue is in my new Signature, "May the perfect love of God reign in our hearts!" It was not Luisa who said this, but St. Louis De Montfort. He signed many of his letters with this (and similarly-worded) signatures. I figured that because Father Celso had taught from the works of Luis M. Martinez, who practiced True Devotion to Mary, that Father Celso must also be familiar with the works of St. Louis De Montfort, which provide the basis for Archbishop Martinez's spirituality. Also, the Divine Will promoters consistently cite St. Louis De Montfort as a basis for Luisa's Divine Will spirituality. I figured that any priest who promotes Luisa's Divine Will, if he's prudent, would have a thorough working knowledge of ALL St. Louis De Montfort's writings. Anyone who is well-versed in Monfortian spirituality, as Father Celso should have been, would have immediately recognized St. Louis De Montfort's signature. I decided that if Father Celso did not pick up on the clue, that I was to take it as a sign from God to continue with my little deception, in order to save souls. To his own detriment, he didn't catch my clue, so I continued with our conversation].
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
As our eyes open to the light of day, let us make our whole being rise in the Light of the Will of God, and let us begin our round.
The first act must be an act of love in the Divine Will. Let us make this act diffuse in all intelligences of creatures, in all gazes, in the words, in the motion, in the steps, in the heartbeats, in each breath.
Then, let us bind all of these acts of ours with those done by Adam in the Holy Will of God, with those that the creatures who will live in the Divine Will will do, up to the last one that will be done on earth.
Let us rise a little higher, then, into Creation. For love of the creature God created the sun, the stars, the sea, the earth, the birds, the flowers; and we, let us take all this love spread throughout the Creation, let us make it our own, and let us offer it to our Creator like as many acts of homage, of love, of blessings and of praises.
And now, let us go higher, up there in Paradise. Let us go through all the Angels and through all the Saints; let us unite ourselves with the whole Celestial Court, and let us give an act of love to Jesus for all and for each one.
Then, let us draw near the Virgin, our dear Mama She is ready to give us all of Her merits as gift, and we, with the confidence of children. Let us take all that She has done, from the very first moment of Her Conception up to Her last breath, and let us offer it to our God as if everything were our own.
And then, let us go to the Word, and ask Him to let us take part in all of His acts: His Conception, His birth, the flight to Egypt, the thirty years of hidden life, the three years of public life, His Passion, His death, His Ascension into Heaven. He has done all this for us - let us make it our own, and let us offer it to the Sacrosanct Trinity. Only in this way, miserable creatures as we are, can we offer the most complete and holy act, because in this way the creature gives nothing of her own, but gives back to God all the glory that comes to her from what He Himself has done. Amen.
In this prayer below is the part underlined pertaining to the Virgin Mary and the other part in bold pertaining to Luisa?
Oh adorable and Divine Will, behold me here before the immensity of Your Light, that Your eternal goodness may open to me the doors and make me enter into It to form my life all in You, Divine Will. Therefore, oh adorable Will, prostrate before Your Light, I, the least of all creatures, put myself into the little group of the sons and daughters of Your Supreme FIAT. Prostrate in my nothingness, I invoke Your Light and beg that It clothe me and eclipse all that does not pertain to You, Divine Will. It will be my Life, the center of my intelligence, the enrapturer of my heart and of my whole being. I do not want the human will to have life in this heart any longer. I will cast it away from me and thus form the new Eden of Peace, of happiness and of love. With It I shall be always happy. I shall have a singular strength ! and a holiness that sanctifies all things and conducts them to God.
Here prostrate, I invoke the help of the Most Holy Trinity, that They permit me to live in the cloister of the Divine Will and thus return in me the first order of creation, just as the creature was created.
Heavenly Mother, Sovereign and Queen of the Divine Fiat, take my hand and introduce me into the Light of the Divine Will. You will be my guide, my most tender Mother, and will teach me to live in and to maintain myself in the order and the bounds of the Divine Will.Heavenly Mother, I consecrate my whole being to Your Immaculate Heart. You will teach me the doctrine of the Divine Will and I will listen most attentively to Your lessons. You will cover me with Your mantle so that the infernal serpent dare not penetrate into this sacred Eden to entice me and make me fall into the maze of the human will. Heart of my greatest Good,! Jesus, You will give me Your flames that they may burn me, consume me , and feed me to form in me the Life of the Divine Will.
Saint Joseph, you will be my protector, the guardian of my heart, and will keep the keys of my will in your hands. You will keep my heart jealously and shall never give it to me again, that I may be sure of never leaving the Will of God. My Guardian Angel, guard me; defend me; help me in everything so that my Eden may flourish and be the instrument that draws all men into the Kingdom of the Divine Will. Amen.
Father Thomas, in the prayer below, is the "Mother" Mary or Luisa?
Oh Heavenly Mother, the hour draws near; a few more moments and Jesus will come to settle in my poor heart.
Oh Mother, sweetest Mother take your little child in your arms and, sweetly rocking her in your maternal arms, bring her to Jesus. And while You, oh Mother, will cover all my being with your most holy hands, put to sleep my thoughts, my affections, my desires and all that which is not from God.
Touch my forehead with your Divine fingers and make me understand who Jesus is and the great gift He makes me, giving me all Himself; so that knowing Him I might be able to love Him more.
Oh Mother, touch my eyes and, while You purify them for me, make them worthy for looking only at Jesus.
Touch my ears; purify them and place your fingers on them as a seal; so that they may open only to listen to Jesus voice.
Touch my mouth and, while You purify my lips and my tongue, Oh Mother, You Yourself intercede before me; so that, penetrated by your voice, Jesus may concede that which is of His Will.
Oh Mother, touch my hands and, while You purify them, dispose them in such a way as to be able to embrace and hug Jesus.
Oh Mother, touch my feet and purify them in such a way as to be able not to walk, but to fly always more toward Jesus.
Oh Mother, while You hold me tightly in your arms, look at my poor heart. Take it between your hands and shake off the dust by which it is soiled. Purify its affections; grant that my desires may be so ardent as to be able to continuously wound the Heart of my Jesus.
Oh Mother, in this heart, cold as it is, pour all your Love; fill it with your virtues; bless it for me with your most holy hands; so that, now that Jesus is coming, He may find it enriched by You and will never be able to reject it.
Mother, give one of your maternal glances to all my being. After having purified and beautified me, be so kind as to present me to Jesus. Look at me still, Mother. I would like You to take away something from this miserable ego of mine. Do You not see? I still need You to completely destroy this ego. You alone can do it. Therefore, You Yourself ask Jesus for it, and I am sure that He will want to deny You nothing.
Oh Mother, put Jesus mind in mine to be able to understand Him with His own intelligence, His eyes in mine to be able to look at Him with His own eyes, His hearing in mine to be able to hear Him with His own hearing, His mouth in mine to be able to receive Him with His own tongue, His arms in mine to be able to embrace Him with his own arms; so that He may no longer be able to detach Himself from me, His feet in mine so that, wherever I go, He may not find me but in Himself and He always in me, His Heart in mine so that upon Jesus coming He may not find but Himself and that I may be hidden all in Him so that He will not find my love but His own Love.
Grant, oh Mother, that my heart may be the little host, consecrated and transformed all into Him, in such a way as to be a pyx, tabernacle and continuous life of love and immolation with Jesus Himself.
Now, Mother, I am content. Take me in your arms to the Alter. You also descend with Him into my heart and all three of Us together will sing the hymn of thanksgiving.
And you, all the Angels and Saints of Paradise, come around me. Accompany me to Jesus. Amen.
[There's always something I found odd about the last prayer: it's striking resemblance to this prayer, called St. Louis De Montfort's Prayer to Mary:
Hail Mary, beloved Daughter of the Eternal Father! Hail Mary, admirable Mother of the Son! Hail Mary, faithful spouse of the Holy Ghost! Hail Mary, my dear Mother, my loving Mistress, my powerful sovereign! Hail my joy, my glory, my heart and my soul! Thou art all mine by mercy, and I am all thine by justice. But I am not sufficiently thine. I now give myself wholly to thee without keeping anything back for myself or others. If thou still seest in me anything which does not belong to thee, I beseech thee to take it and make thyself the absolute Mistress of all that is mine. Destroy in me all that may be displeasing to God, root it up and bring it to naught; place and cultivate in me everything that is pleasing to thee.
May the light of thy faith dispel the darkness of my mind; may thy profound humility take the place of my pride; may thy sublime contemplation check the distractions of my wandering imagination; may thy continuous sight of God fill my memory with His presence; may the burning love of thy heart inflame the lukewarmness of mine; may thy virtues take the place of my sins; may thy merits be my only adornment in the sight of God and make up for all that is wanting in me. Finally, dearly beloved Mother, grant, if it be possible, that I may have no other spirit but thine to know Jesus and His Divine Will; that I may have no other soul but thine to praise and glorify the Lord; that I may have no other heart but thine to love God with a love as pure and ardent as thine. I do not ask thee for visions, revelations, sensible devotion or spiritual pleasures. It is thy privilege to see God clearly; it is thy privilege to enjoy heavenly bliss; it is thy privilege to triumph gloriously in Heaven at the right hand of thy Son and to hold absolue sway over angels, men and demons; it is thy privilege to dispose of all the gifts of God, just as thou willest.
Such is, O heavenly Mary, the "best part," which the Lord has given thee and which shall never be taken away from thee---and this fills my heart with joy. As for my part here below, I wish for no other than that which was thine; to believe sincerely without spiritual pleasures; to suffer joyfully without human consolation; to die continually to myself without respite; and to work zealously and unselfishly for thee until death as the humblest of thy servants. The only grace I beg thee to obtain for me is that every day and every moment of my life I may say: Amen, so be it--to all that thou didst do while on earth; Amen so be it--to all that thou art doing in Heaven; Amen, so be it--to all thou art doing in my soul, so that thou alone mayest fully glorify Jesus in me for all time and eternity. Amen. ---From True Devotion to Mary by St. Louis De Montfort, Faber's translation. pp.186-188.
My comment: 1). Citing the underlined text above, it is clear that St. Louis De Montfort's True Devotion to Mary spirituality is singular. We are to have no other intercessor but Mary. This makes Piccarretan Spirituality incompatible with Montfortian Spirituality. We cannot go to Jesus and Mary through Luisa because a secondary intercessor is not allowed in true Montfortian spirituality. I'll address this issue more later. 2) The structure of the two prayers are striking. The question is Why? My theory is that an entity changed and altered Montfort's prayer to fit Divine Will, and then transcribed it to Luisa in a locution or apparition. 3) My theory is that Piccarretan Divine Will is nothing more than a diversion from and a demonic aping of (imitation) the exceedingly fruitful and highly powerful True Devotion to Mary per St. Louis De Montfort].
From: BThomas Celso Date: 09/26/06 06:31:49 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Luisa's prayers---questions
Dear Billy de Goat,
God bless you in the Most Holy Divine Will.
I'll respond in red.
Fiat!
Fr. Thomas
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From: Billy de Goat To: Father Celso Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Luisa's prayers---questions
Father Thomas,
Greetings!
Thank you for all your help so far.
I have some questions regarding Luisa's prayers. You say we're to address Luisa as our Virgin Mama or Virgin Mother, right? No, Our Lady is the Mother of God. She is the Celestial Virgin Mother and Divine Queen of both Heaven and earth. Great Love and respect must be given to her. Luisa is the little daughter of the Divine Will. There is a great difference between Our Lady and Luisa. Our Lady is the Universal Mother and cause of Redemption of all. So with regards to the parts of the three prayers I highlighted in bold, below, are we addressing the Virgin Mary or the Luisa when we say "Mother" or "Virgin Mother" or "Virgin Mama?"
Volume 25 - November 14,1928
After this, My lovable Jesus made Himself seen as a tiny little child, who, throwing His arms around my neck, told me: "My mama, My mama…. Luisa the one who does My Divine Will becomes mother; My Divine Fiat embellishes her for Me, transforms her, and renders her fecund, in such a way as to give her all the qualities in order to be a true mother. And I keep forming this mother with the reflections of the Sun of My Divine Volition, and I glory and take so much pleasure in calling her My mama, My mama…. And not only do I, Jesus choose her Luisa as My mother, but I, Jesus call many more tiny little ones and give to them My mother as their mother."
And while He was saying this, He showed me many little boys and girls around me; and the child Jesus said to them: "This is Luisa, My mother and your mama."
The little ones made feast and drew all around me together with Jesus; and Jesus added: "These little ones you see are no other than the first cohort of the children of My Divine Volition. In It, all will be little, because My Divine Will has the virtue of preserving them fresh and beautiful, just as they came out of Our creative hands. And since It called your littleness to live in It, it is right that, as the first one, you Luisa be the tiny little mama of the tiny little children."
Volume 26 - December 22, 1929
"In the Incarnation, the Three Divine Persons were concurring, and in My company—or rather, They were inseparable from Me, with the addition of the Celestial Queen; and She Herself was the Divine depository of all the goods of the Incarnation. See, then, how the company of the creature is necessary to Me in order to form My works—a creature who would place herself at My disposal in order to receive the great good I want to give her. So, do you Luisa want to be My second mama? Do you Luisa want to receive the great good of the renewing of My Incarnation, as the endowment of the Kingdom of My Divine Fiat? In this way I, Jesus will have two mamas—the first, Our Lady, who let Me form the Kingdom of Redemption; the second, Luisa, who will let Me form the Kingdom of My Divine Will." And placing His tiny little hands on my face, caressing me, He told me: ‘My mama! My mama! Maternal love surpasses all loves; so, you Luisa will love Me with insuperable love of mother.’"
In the second prayer, it appears we're addressing both the Luisa, and the Virgin Mary, right? In the second prayer, I underlined the part that I interpret to pertain to the Virgin Mary, since it mention's an Immaculate heart. In the third prayer, are we addressing the Virgin Mary as "Mother" through the whole of the prayer, or are we addressing Luisa?
The prayer's I've referenced are below my signature.
Jesus tells Luisa that the words I, me, my and mine have to disappear for those who Live in the Divine Will.
Thank you so much. May the Perfect Love of God reign in our hearts!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
Fiat!
As our eyes open to the light of day, let us make our whole being rise in the Light of the Will of God, and let us begin our round.
The first act must be an act of love in the Divine Will. Let us make this act diffuse in all intelligences of creatures, in all gazes, in the words, in the motion, in the steps, in the heartbeats, in each breath.
Then, let us bind all of these acts of ours with those done by Adam in the Holy Will of God, with those that the creatures who will live in the Divine Will will do, up to the last one that will be done on earth.
Let us rise a little higher, then, into Creation. For love of the creature God created the sun, the stars, the sea, the earth, the birds, the flowers; and we, let us take all this love spread throughout the Creation, let us make it our own, and let us offer it to our Creator like as many acts of homage, of love, of blessings and of praises.
And now, let us go higher, up there in Paradise. Let us go through all the Angels and through all the Saints; let us unite ourselves with the whole Celestial Court, and let us give an act of love to Jesus for all and for each one.
Then, let us draw near the Virgin, our dear Mama She is ready to give us all of Her merits as gift, and we, with the confidence of children. Let us take all that She has done, from the very first moment of Her Conception up to Her last breath, and let us offer it to our God as if everything were our own.
And then, let us go to the Word, and ask Him to let us take part in all of His acts: His Conception, His birth, the flight to Egypt, the thirty years of hidden life, the three years of public life, His Passion, His death, His Ascension into Heaven. He has done all this for us - let us make it our own, and let us offer it to the Sacrosanct Trinity. Only in this way, miserable creatures as we are, can we offer the most complete and holy act, because in this way the creature gives nothing of her own, but gives back to God all the glory that comes to her from what He Himself has done. Amen.
In this prayer below is the part underlined pertaining to the Virgin Mary OUR LADY and the other part in bold pertaining to Luisa?
Oh adorable and Divine Will, behold me here before the immensity of Your Light, that Your eternal goodness may open to me the doors and make me enter into It to form my life all in You, Divine Will. Therefore, oh adorable Will, prostrate before Your Light, I, the least of all creatures, put myself into the little group of the sons and daughters of Your Supreme FIAT. Prostrate in my nothingness, I invoke Your Light and beg that It clothe me and eclipse all that does not pertain to You, Divine Will. It will be my Life, the center of my intelligence, the enrapturer of my heart and of my whole being. I do not want the human will to have life in this heart any longer. I will cast it away from me and thus form the new Eden of Peace, of happiness and of love. With It I shall be always happy. I shall have a singular strength ! and a holiness that sanctifies all things and conducts them to God.
Here prostrate, I invoke the help of the Most Holy Trinity, that They permit me to live in the cloister of the Divine Will and thus return in me the first order of creation, just as the creature was created.
Heavenly Mother, Sovereign and Queen of the Divine Fiat, take my hand and introduce me into the Light of the Divine Will. You will be my guide, my most tender Mother, and will teach me to live in and to maintain myself in the order and the bounds of the Divine Will.Heavenly Mother, I consecrate my whole being to Your Immaculate Heart. You will teach me the doctrine of the Divine Will and I will listen most attentively to Your lessons. You will cover me with Your mantle so that the infernal serpent dare not penetrate into this sacred Eden to entice me and make me fall into the maze of the human will. Heart of my greatest Good,! Jesus, You will give me Your flames that they may burn me, consume me , and feed me to form in me the Life of the Divine Will.
Saint Joseph, you will be my protector, the guardian of my heart, and will keep the keys of my will in your hands. You will keep my heart jealously and shall never give it to me again, that I may be sure of never leaving the Will of God. My Guardian Angel, guard me; defend me; help me in everything so that my Eden may flourish and be the instrument that draws all men into the Kingdom of the Divine Will. Amen.
O adorable and Divine Will, here I am, before the immensity of Your Light, that Your eternal Goodness may open to me the doors, and make me enter into It, to form my life all in You, Divine Will.
Therefore, prostrate before Your Light, I, the littlest among all creatures, come, O adorable Will, into the little group of the first children of Your Supreme Fiat. Prostrate in my nothingness, I beseech and implore Your endless Light, that It may want to invest me and eclipse everything that does not belong to You, in such a way that I may do nothing other than look, comprehend, and live in You, Divine Will.
It will be my life, the center of my intelligence, the enrapturer of my heart and of my whole being. In this heart the human will will no longer have life; I will banish it forever, and will form the new Eden of peace, of happiness, and of love. With It I shall always be happy; I shall have a unique strength, and a sanctity that sanctifies everything and brings everything to God.
Here prostrate, I invoke the help of the Sacrosanct Trinity, that They admit me to live in the cloister of the Divine Will, so as to restore in me the original order of Creation, just as the creature was created.
Celestial Mother, Sovereign Queen of the Divine Fiat, take me by the hand and enclose me in the Light of the Divine Will. You will be my guide, my tender Mother; You will guard your child, and will teach me to live and to maintain myself in the order and in the bounds of the Divine Will. Celestial Sovereign, to your Heart I entrust my whole being; I will be the tiny little child of the Divine Will. You will teach me the Divine Will, and I will be attentive in listening to You. You will lay your blue mantle over me, so that the infernal serpent may not dare to penetrate into this Sacred Eden to entice me and make me fall into the maze of the human will.
Heart of my highest Good, Jesus, You will give me Your flames, that they may burn me, consume me, and nourish me, to form in me the Life of the Supreme Will. Saint Joseph, You will be my Protector, the Custodian of my heart, and will keep the keys of my will in your hands. You will keep my heart jealously, and will never give it to me again, that I may be sure never to go out of the Will of God.
Guardian Angel, guard me, defend me, help me in everything, so that my Eden may grow flourishing and be the call of the whole world into the Will of God.
Celestial Court, come to my help, and I promise You to live always in the Divine Will. Amen.
For the glorification of the Servant of God Luisa Piccarreta
Oh Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit we praise and thank You for the gift of holiness You granted to Your faithful servant Luisa Piccarreta.
She lived, dear Father, in Your Divine Will and became, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, similar to Your Son, who died on the cross due to His obedience.
She was a victim and a host welcome to You, thus contributing to the Redemption of mankind.
Her virtues of obedience, humility, love of Christ and to the Church urge us to ask You for the gift of her glorification on earth, so that Your glory may shine, and Your kingdom of truth, justice and love may spread all over the world in the particular charisma of:
We appeal to her merits to obtain from You, Holy Trinity, the particular grace for (add your intention) which we pray to You in Your Divine Will. Amen.
Three Glory be’s …
Our Father …
Our Lady, Queen of Saints, pray for us.
Father Thomas, in the prayer below, is the "Mother" Mary Our Lady or Luisa?
Oh Heavenly Mother, the hour draws near; a few more moments and Jesus will come to settle in my poor heart.
Oh Mother, sweetest Mother take your little child in your arms and, sweetly rocking her in your maternal arms, bring her to Jesus. And while You, oh Mother, will cover all my being with your most holy hands, put to sleep my thoughts, my affections, my desires and all that which is not from God.
Touch my forehead with your Divine fingers and make me understand who Jesus is and the great gift He makes me, giving me all Himself; so that knowing Him I might be able to love Him more.
Oh Mother, touch my eyes and, while You purify them for me, make them worthy for looking only at Jesus.
Touch my ears; purify them and place your fingers on them as a seal; so that they may open only to listen to Jesus voice.
Touch my mouth and, while You purify my lips and my tongue, Oh Mother, You Yourself intercede before me; so that, penetrated by your voice, Jesus may concede that which is of His Will.
Oh Mother, touch my hands and, while You purify them, dispose them in such a way as to be able to embrace and hug Jesus.
Oh Mother, touch my feet and purify them in such a way as to be able not to walk, but to fly always more toward Jesus.
Oh Mother, while You hold me tightly in your arms, look at my poor heart. Take it between your hands and shake off the dust by which it is soiled. Purify its affections; grant that my desires may be so ardent as to be able to continuously wound the Heart of my Jesus.
Oh Mother, in this heart, cold as it is, pour all your Love; fill it with your virtues; bless it for me with your most holy hands; so that, now that Jesus is coming, He may find it enriched by You and will never be able to reject it.
Mother, give one of your maternal glances to all my being. After having purified and beautified me, be so kind as to present me to Jesus. Look at me still, Mother. I would like You to take away something from this miserable ego of mine. Do You not see? I still need You to completely destroy this ego. You alone can do it. Therefore, You Yourself ask Jesus for it, and I am sure that He will want to deny You nothing.
Oh Mother, put Jesus mind in mine to be able to understand Him with His own intelligence, His eyes in mine to be able to look at Him with His own eyes, His hearing in mine to be able to hear Him with His own hearing, His mouth in mine to be able to receive Him with His own tongue, His arms in mine to be able to embrace Him with his own arms; so that He may no longer be able to detach Himself from me, His feet in mine so that, wherever I go, He may not find me but in Himself and He always in me, His Heart in mine so that upon Jesus coming He may not find but Himself and that I may be hidden all in Him so that He will not find my love but His own Love.
Grant, oh Mother, that my heart may be the little host, consecrated and transformed all into Him, in such a way as to be a pyx, tabernacle and continuous life of love and immolation with Jesus Himself.
Now, Mother, I am content. Take me in your arms to the Alter. You also descend with Him into my heart and all three of Us together will sing the hymn of thanksgiving.
And you, all the Angels and Saints of Paradise, come around me. Accompany me to Jesus. Amen.
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/27/06 16:43:57 To: Father Celso Subject: Divine Will Gear Models
Father Thomas,
Hello. Me again. [In this email, I did more probing to find out what Father Celso's job was. I tried finding out information on him through Google, Dogpile and Mamma.com search engines and came up empty save for a funeral service run by him several years ago. I have done background research on other priests, and one can usually find out which Parish they reside in through Google. Anyway, I came up empty on my own, so I figured I'd just ask him some personal information].
I heard that Father Bucci had personal contact with Luisa during his childhood. I'm wondering if you're still working with him, or are you working on Luisa's cause from Rome? Or are you working in Caryville at the John Paul II Institute of Christian Spirituality?
I was also examining some of the Gear Model depictions Father Fahy had drawn in his book, The Essentials of Living in the Divine Will. I copied the models and redrew them in Illustrator. It seems to me that one of his gear models is incorrect. I have some questions, written beside the drawing (This is a .jpg image file insert, so if you have comments, please write it in at the bottom of the diagram, or whatever you wish):
[Diagram was here. Omitted because it’s irrelevant]
Well, thank you and God bless.
May the Love of God Reign in our hearts.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 09/28/06 07:37:42 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Divine Will Gear Models
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/27/06 16:43:57 To: Father Celso Subject: Divine Will Gear Models
[He responds in RED]
Father Thomas,
Dear Billy,
Hello. Me again.
Good to hear from you!
God bless you and your family in the Most Holy Divine Will on this feast day of St. Wencelaus, St. Lawrence Ruiz and Companions.
I heard that Father Bucci had personal contact with Luisa during his childhood.
Yes, he says he remembers those days as if they happened yesterday.
if you're still working with him,
We are in contact.
or are you working on Luisa's cause from Rome?
No, we link ourselves to Luisa by reading, re-reading and putting into practice all that Jesus tells her.
Or are you working in Caryville at the John Paul II Institute of Christian Spirituality?
This is NOT an Official Church related Institute.
This is a private business run by Tom Fahy.
There is a True John Paul II Institute run by the Catholic Church in Washington, DC. under the direction of His Eminence Camillo Cardinal Ruini which can be found at: http://www.johnpaulii.edu/about.html
I was also examining some of the Gear Model depictions Father Fahy had drawn in his book, The Essentials of Living in the Divine Will.
Tom Fahy is NOT a priest.
Tom Fahy is NOT a Theologian.
This book is NOT recommended by the Archdiocese of Trani.
I copied the models and redrew them in Illustrator.
Jesus did NOT use drawings to teach the Servant of God, Luisa Piccarreta.
It seems to me that one of his gear models is incorrect.
Gear drawings are NOT used by Jesus, the WORD.
I have some questions, written beside the drawing (This is a .jpg image file insert, so if you have comments, please write it in at the bottom of the diagram, or whatever you wish):
Gear drawings are NOT recommended by the Archdiocese of Trani.
[Diagram was here. Omitted because it’s irrelevant]
Well, thank you and God bless.
May the Love of God Reign in our hearts.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
In the Unity of the Divine Will,
Fiat!
Fr. Thomas
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/28/06 13:03:02 To: Father Celso Subject: Luisa's Sanctifying Role
Father Thomas,
Good morning!
Thanks for your advice on the gear models. I'll omit them in the future.
I was doing more research, and I read somewhere---though I can't remember where---that although Luisa was born of Original Sin (obviously cleansed of it at Baptism) we can go to Jesus through her because her human nature was cleansed of concupiscence. Is this true? That is, her perfected human nature was a necessary predisposition of her purifying and sanctifying spiritual role as, "The Little Daughter of the Divine Will." Correct?
And then I got to thinking---the only other creature that possesses this quality is the Virgin Mary. This is likely the main reason she was Assumed into Heaven body and soul. Otherwise she'd have had to wait until the General Resurrection just like the rest of us.
If Luisa was cleansed of both Original Sin and Concupiscence, then was she Assumed into Heaven Body and Soul? Has anyone exhumed her body and checked? [If Luisa is who she claims to be, then she should have been assumed into Heaven just like the Virgin Mary. If not that, at the very least, she should have been incorrupt. You will see later that NEITHER of the aforementioned conditions were met. She decomposed in her grave. The New Testament says our faith in Christ is based upon the historical fact of the Resurrection. Our faith in Our Lady is based upon the Dogmas of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption. What are we to base our faith in Luisa upon? We can't base it upon her holiness because her Letters, especially after the Condemnation, refute the presence of heroic virtues required for Sainthood. She apparently had inedia and hidden stigmata--but Church history shows that the Devil can mimic both of those. She claims miracles in her diary, The Book of Heaven, but to my knowledge, these were not documented by a necessary third party. She claims to be a victim soul -- but that's not enough for me to accept the messages in the Book of Heaven. There have been LOTS of victim souls throughout history. So what's left? If this spirituality had been so CRITICAL to the Church, Our Lord would have given us something irrefutable, concrete and magnificent inwhich to base our faith in Luisa].
I know they're odd questions. I was just wondering.
Thank you. May the Perfect Love of God reign in our hearts!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
[no response to this particular email but some questions were answered later]
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/29/06 23:30:23 To: Father Celso Subject: Divine Will: a fusion?
Father Thomas,
It just occurred to me why you dislike Gear Models to explain Divine Will. The reason is because Gear Models are inadequate.
[In this e-mail, I deliberately introduced the heresies of Monothelitism and Monophysitism. It's interesting that Father Celso denies this, because the writings of the Book of Heaven STRONGLY suggest both heresies. I wonder if Father Celso denied this because he knew me to be at the beginner's level of Divine Will studies? My observation is that Luisa's Divine Will is a progression of heresies. If one reads the Volumes in sequence, Luisa first speaks of Conformity with the Will of God. In fact, one could argue the early Volumes teach genuine abandonment and Conformity to the Divine Will. The insertion of Truth is designed to lure people. Then, the entity speaking to Luisa slowly introduces lies, starting with Quietism. In the mid-volumes the heresy of Monothelitism appears. The heresy of Monophysitism is apparent with the messages about the Children of the Divine Will literally becoming Living Hosts--their human nature changed with the reception of the Eucharist in such a way that they regain the lost preternatual Gifts of Adam and Eve, all prior to the Second Coming. The Church teaches that we do not have a substantial union with the Indwelled Holy Trinity. It is accidental. ONLY Jesus Christ has a substantial Union with the Divine. Although His Hypostatic Union is substantial, each of the two natures of Christ continues unimpaired, untransformed, and unmixed with the other in such a way that the two natures in Christ possesses its own natural will and its own natural mode of operation. From Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Dr. Ludwig Ott, pp. 147-148. The heresy of Millenarianism is found in Luisa's Letters. The Three Appeals demonstrates all of the above, plus the heresy of Pantheism when Luisa states that Creation is ruled over by the Divine Will, which she says is Present in all things. Again, we find Millenarianism. My advice to the Students of the Divine Will would be to study the dogmas concerning Sanctifying Grace, Actual Grace, Holy Ghost (especially the Indwelling),the Hypostatic Union, the The Tome of St Leo the Great of Rome (speaks of the dual natures of Christ), the meaning of Christ's Redemption the teachings about the Eucharist: Introduction to the Eucharist, Eucharist as a Sacrament, Eucharist as a Sacrifice and the Real Presence. After you've studied, read the Volumes again! Do what I did: go though the Volumes with a highlighter pen and mark each time Luisa writes something heretical. You'll find yourself running out of ink quickly!].
The human will is like the drop of water dropped into the chalice at Mass, or like a drop of wax being dropped into a hot vat of wax. When receiving the gift of the Divine Will (by first asking for it, then by Linking to Luisa, and then reading and re-reading the Volumes), the human will is mixed and fused into the Divine Will in such a way that it becomes transformed, One with the Divine Will. The human will, mixed with the Divine Will is reborn into a new third nature and becomes "a little God."
That is, Divine Will spirituality is a fusion of Wills, a fusion of the Human Nature and the Divine Nature so that the human nature (the human will) is reborn in the Divine Will--in time. The Human Will fuses into the Divine and becomes One with it, so that all the actions of the Reborn Child of the Divine Fiat operate with a singular mode of action: the Divine. In this fusion, the Human Will loses life and becomes lost in the sea of the Divine Will.
The Gift of the Divine Will returns us to the state of Adam before the fall, to a time when the Divine Will was fused within Man's lifeless human will. All of Adam's acts before the fall proceeded from the One action of the Divine Will. That is, his being and actions possessed the True Divine Life.
Am I finally understanding Divine Will correctly?
Thank you very much.
May God's Love Reign forever!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 09/30/06 07:59:15 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Divine Will: a fusion?
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/28/06 13:03:02 To: Father Celso Subject: Luisa's Sanctifying Role
Father Thomas,
[He responds in red]
It just occurred to me why you dislike NO, I DO NOT DISLIKE Gear Models to explain JESUS DOES NOT EXPLAIN IT THIS WAY! Divine Will. The reason is because Gear Models are inadequate.
The human will is like the drop of water dropped PUT into the chalice FILLED WITH WINE at HOLY Mass, THE WATER BECOMES ONE WITH THE WINE or like a NO! drop of wax being dropped into a hot vat of wax THEY ARE THE SAME THING. When receiving the gift of the Divine Will (by first asking for it NO!, then by FIRST Linking ONESELF to Luisa, and then BY reading and re-reading the Volumes AND PUTTING INTO PRACTICE), the human will NO! is mixed and fused into the Divine Will in such a way that it becomes transformed WE USE OUR FREE WILL TO CHOSE TO LIVE IN THE DIVINE WILL AND NOT THE HUMAN WILL One with the Divine Will. The human will, NO! THE HUMAN WILL IS IN CHARGE mixed with the Divine Will is reborn NO! into a new third nature and becomes "a little God." NO! WE SHARE IN THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS.
That is, Divine Will spirituality is a fusion of Wills NO!, THE HUMAN WILL IS NO LONGER IN CHARGE, BECAUSE THE DIVINE WILL REIGNS IN THAT SOUL (OF LUISA) a fusion NO! of the Human Nature and the Divine Nature so that the human nature (the human will) is reborn NO! NO! NO! in the Divine Will--in time.NO! The Human Will fuses into the Divine and becomes One with it NO! , so that all the actions of the Reborn NO! Child of the Divine Fiat operate with a singular mode of action: the Divine. In this fusion, the Human Will loses life NO! and becomes lost in the sea of the Divine Will.
The Gift of the Divine Will returns us to the state of Adam before the fall, YES! to a time when the Divine Will was fused within Man's lifeless NO! human will. THE HUMAN WILL IS WHERE GOD'S DIVINE WILL REIGNED All of Adam's acts before the fall proceeded from the One action of the Divine Will. That is, his being and actions possessed the True Divine Life.
Am I finally understanding Divine Will correctly? NO, NOT AT ALL!
Billy,
YOU MUST BEGIN TO READ ALL THE VOLUMES OF THE DIARY OF LUISA FROM THE BEGINNING.
LEARN AS LUISA LEARNED.
LINK YOURSELF TO LUISA BY KNOWING THE TRUTHS THAT JESUS TAUGHT HER. DO NOT TRY TO UNDERSTAND FROM WHERE YOU ARE BUT WHERE LUISA IS!!! YOUR MIND IS CLUTTERED WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDINGS.
YOU CAN NOT USE ANY OF YOUR UNDERSTANDINGS TO BE LINKED TO LUISA. THIS IS WHY JESUS CALLS LUISA THE LITTLE NEWBORN.
SHE GAVE GOD HER EVERYTHING.
ALL HER UNDERSTANDINGS SO THAT SHE COULD BE TAUGHT BY JESUS. HE BEGINS AGAIN WITH LUISA WHERE ADAM LEFT OFF.
EVERYTHING THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES IS THE ABC'S OF THE DIVINE WILL.
NOW WITH LUISA WE BEGIN TO LEARN ABOUT THE DIVINE WILL AS JESUS TAUGHT HER BY BEING LINKED TO HER.
BEGIN!
FIAT!
FR. THOMAS
Thank you very much.
May God's Love Reign forever!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/30/06 08:35:45 To: BThomas Celso Subject: Re: Divine Will: a fusion?Father Thomas,
Sorry. I'm a bit dense. I just like definitions.
OK. Here goes: The human will is like a drop of water put into the chalice filled with wine at Holy Mass. The water, the Human Will, becomes One with the Wine, the Divine Will. The Human Will and the Divine Will become the same? The Human Will chooses to live in the Divine Will, and not the Human Will. When it chooses this, the Human Will is no longer in charge. The Divine Will then reigns in that soul, returning it to the original State of Adam before the fall when we shared in the Divinity of God in His image and Likeness.
Question: When the Divine Will reigns in that soul, are all of the actions of that soul operating with a Singular Divine mode of action?
Question: Is the Human Nature altered at all in this process?
Question: The Human Will is no longer in charge when the Divine Will reigns in a soul, but it doesn't become lifeless. Please describe the nature of this relationship?
Question: Please describe the state of Adam before the Fall, so I have clear model to follow.
Thank you, and God bless you.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 10/01/06 07:50:57 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Divine Will: a fusion?
Dear Billy, [HE RESPONDS IN RED],
God bless you and your family in the Most Holy Divine Will.
Don't worry about your questions.
At the end of Luisa's life she apologized to Jesus for all her questions and Jesus told her that she had NO questions.
He told her that every time she asked a question she was asking for all those souls who had questions.
Poor Luisa, she was given all our questions (all our doubt) to give to Jesus so that Jesus could answer each and everyone of our questions through Luisa.
This is the reason why those souls who are reading the Volumes of Luisa have NO questions because each and everyone of our questions are answered by Jesus Himself when we read the writings of Luisa.
SO PLEASE READ, RE-READ AND PUT INTO PRACTICE THE 36 VOLUMES and ALL your questions will be answered!!!
Fiat!
Fr. Thomas
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/30/06 08:35:45 To: BThomas Celso Subject: Re: Divine Will: a fusion?Father Thomas,
Sorry. I'm a bit dense. I just like definitions.
OK. Here goes: The human will is like a drop of water put into the chalice filled with wine at Holy Mass. The water, the Human Will, becomes One with the Wine, NO, it disappears, [So here, we can insert yet another heresy, called Monoenergeticism. I believe it's a subdivision of Monophysitism? Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma says on page 149, "The Monoenergetics also, spoke of a single mode of activity of Christ, which they conceived as being achieved by the Divine nature by the utilisation of a purely passive human nature possessed of no human will." This is, of course, a heresy].the Divine Will. The Human Will and the Divine Will become the same? NO, the human will is NO LONGER in charge [Here, he contradicts himself. He just told me earlier that the Human Will is in charge]. and the Divine Will reigns in that soul. The Human Will chooses to live NO, the human will no longer "Lives" or is in charge in the Divine Will, and not the Human Will. When it chooses this, to "live" in its NOTHINGNESS the Human Will is no longer in charge. [Here we have the same contradiction. I'm guessing that the Human Will is in charge in the early stages of Divine Will and that when it chooses to live in its nothingness, it disappears, and no longer "lives," and it is in this state where the Divine Will reigns within the Human Will. We have to remember that Luisa's Divine Will is a progressive heresy, that is, Quietism leads to Monothelitism leads to Monoenergeticism/Monophysitism leads to Pantheism leads to Millenarianism, etc...]. The Divine Will then reigns in that soul, returning it to the original State of Adam before the fall when we shared in the Divinity of God in His image and Likeness.
Question: When the Divine Will reigns in that soul, (it is ONLY Luisa at this time) [The reason is because The Three Appeals have not been fulfilled. We'll get to that later]. are all of the actions of that soul operating with a Singular Divine mode of action?
Question: Is the Human Nature altered at all in this process? Jesus tells Luisa that the soul who "Lives" in the Divine Will will return back to its original state of Adam who had the preternatural state (integrity, impassability, immutability and immortality). Remember, Luisa possessed this "Gift" of gifts but she died and decomposed, therefore it is not yet the time for all this to happen. [She died and decomposed in the grave. She wasn't even incorrupt].
Question: The Human Will is no longer in charge when the Divine Will reigns in a soul, but it doesn't become lifeless. Please describe the nature of this relationship? Jesus tells Luisa that the Universe was made for man but the human will was made for Gods to reign in!
Question: Please describe the state of Adam before the Fall, so I have clear model to follow. Adam "lived" in the preternatural state which is the "Life" possessing integrity, impassability, immutability and immortality. [So ... the True Divine Life is the restoration of the preternatural "life?" This is interesting because the preternatural gifts are not strictly Supernatural Gifts. Only Sanctifying Grace, attained from Christ's sacrifice at Calvary attains the level of the Divine---Supernaturality. The True Divine Life has already been restored! Jesus said from the cross, "IT IS FINISHED," and not "It is ALMOST finished." Jesus's sacrifice already Sanctified Man. Luisa Piccarreta is NOT needed!!! Don't let the Piccarretan's fool you into believing that you are not already made in the image and likeness of God. You were made into His image and likeness from birth---because you possess an intellect, memory and a FREE WILL! You entered into the True Divine Life at Baptism. You do not need to link yourself to Luisa to achieve this. You already have the dignity of a Child of God. Don't let them tell you any different. The devil is trying to confuse Supernatural and preternatural Gifts to lure people into this Movement. Satan is trying to break the Mystical Body of Christ apart. Don't let him fool you. The Preternatural gifts are above human nature but are below the level of the Supernatural--which is the level of the Divinity. The Supernatural, True Divine Life was restored by Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone].
Thank you, and God bless you.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: Billy de Goat Date: 10/01/06 11:58:31 To: Father Celso Subject: Tentative definition
Father Celso,
I've composed a tentative definition of Divine Will spirituality based on what you've told me thus far:
"Living in the Divine Will:" A state when the Human Will chooses to live in its nothingness so that the Divine Will can reign in it. The Human Will disappears, placing the Divine Will in charge. The Human Will was created so that God's Will could reign in it, and so this restores us the Original State of Adam. Original sin is giving life to the Human Will. By linking to Luisa and reading and re-reading the volumes and putting them into practice, the Divine Will eventually reigns in our souls, giving us the gift of the True Divine Life of the pre-fallen Adam---restoration of the preternatural gifts (in addition to the supernatural gift of Sanctifying Grace we already possess in Christ). We are to put the Book of Heaven Volumes into practice, and are to use the power of the "prodigy of prodigies" to pray the Kingdom of the Divine Will into time, so it is visible. We do this by praying the Rounds of Redemption and the Rounds of Creation in order to bring about the physical manifestation of the Kingdom of the Divine Will, which is a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Once this Kingdom is visible, the Holy Father will need to possess this "Gift of Gifts" in order to unlock the doors to the Kingdom. With his Keys, the Pope opens the doors of the Kingdom to all the world so there will be one Church, one flock, one shepherd---the great Springtime of the Church. The Era of Sanctification begins with Luisa and ends with the Second Coming / Parousia
Correct?
Thank you.
May the Perfect Love of God reign in the hearts of Men.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 10/03/06 07:38:12 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Tentative definition
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy de Goat Date: 10/01/06 11:58:31 To: Father Celso Subject: Tentative definition
Dear Billy,
[He responds in RED].
Father Celso,
I've composed a tentative definition of Divine Will spirituality based on what you've told me thus far:
"Living in the Divine Will:" A state when the Human Will chooses to live in its nothingness so that the Divine Will can reign in it. When a soul, linked to Luisa, uses her free will to choose to no longer live in the human will and desires to only live in the Divine Will is the beginning and then the soul MUST prove that this is the only state that she wishes to live in day in and day out! The human will disappears, No, the human will is where God will reign. [Contradictions, contradictions. In his 09/30/06 email, he himself told me that the Human Will disappears! Plus, if something becomes "a nothing" does it not cease to exist? He told me that the Human will chooses to "live in its nothingness." This brings to mind another objection: Love always has an object. "I love you. You love me." If we allow our human will to become "a nothing," if we allow it to "dissolve" then what then becomes the object of God's Love? God doesn't love something that doesn't exist. Love requires an object, that is something to love]. placing the Divine Will in charge. The Human Will was created so that God's Will could reign in it, and so this restores us the Original State of Adam. Original sin is giving life to the Human Will. By linking to Luisa and that is by reading and re-reading the volumes and putting them into practice, the Divine Will eventually little by little reigns in our souls, giving us the gift of the True Divine Life of the New Adam and the New Eve, Jesus and Mary which surpasses the pre-fallen Adam---restoration of the preternatural gifts (in addition to the supernatural gift of Sanctifying Grace we already possess in Christ). We are to put the Book of Heaven Volumes into practice, and are to use the power of the "prodigy of prodigies" to call down the Kingdom of the Divine Will one with Luisa into time, "COME DIVINE WILL!" so it is visible. [Jesus tells us in John 18:36, " My kingdom is not of this world."] We do this by praying the Rounds of Redemption and the Rounds of Creation in order to bring about the physical manifestation of the Kingdom of the Divine Will, which is the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit The Second Pentecost .
Before this Kingdom is visible,
From the three Appeals:
And in the first place, I appeal to the HIGHEST HIERARCH, to the ROMAN PONTIFF, to HIS HOLINESS, to the representative of the Holy Catholic Church, and therefore the representative of the KINGDOM OF THE DIVINE WILL. At his holy feet, this little, tiny child, Luisa Piccarreta, places this Kingdom, so that he, the Pope, dominate It and, he the Pope, make It known, and with his paternal and authoritative voice, call his sons, his priests, to live in this Kingdom so holy. May the Sun of the SUPREME "FIAT" invest him, the Holy Father, and form the first Sun of the Divine Volition in Its Representative on earth, the Pope; and forming Its primary Life in him, the Vicar of Christ, who is the Head of all, It will spread Its interminable rays in all the world; and eclipsing all with Its Light, It will form one flock and one Shepherd
Therefore the Holy Father will be the first to possess this "Gift of Gifts" in order to unlock the doors to the Kingdom Jesus said to Luisa, you Luisa, MUST be the key! With his Keys, the other key is to lock up the human will never to be used by humans again. The Pope opens the doors of the Kingdom to all the world so there will be one Church, one flock, one shepherd---the great Springtime of the Church. The Era of Sanctification begins with Luisa and ends with the Second Coming / Parousia. and it might be at same time? [I tried asking Father Celso what He meant by this comment, but he refused to answer my question. He deferred to The Book of Heaven]. Correct? Fiat!
[This is where Divine Will enters into the lunatic fringe. This is not in the faith taught to us by Christ and the Apostles. It is new revelation for an entirely new religion. This is a false gospel. It is a Dogmatic teaching of the Church that Revelation ended during the Apostolic Age].
Thank you.
May the Perfect Love of God reign in the hearts of Men.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
Fiat!
From: Billy de Goat Date: 09/30/06 19:15:27 To: Father Celso Subject: Linking to Luisa and what it means
Father Thomas,
Thank you for answering my questions thus far.
I was thinking about the necessity of linking to Luisa. These questions came to mind:
1. Does Linking to Luisa mean we always act in Luisa?
2. Does linking to Luisa mean that when we pray, we are to always pray in Luisa?
3. When we receive Jesus in Holy Communion, do we always receive Him in Luisa, so that He can take His delight in her?
4. When we link to Luisa, does she become in us like a burning lamp that lights up our soul and inflames us with the love of God?
5 When we link to Luisa, does she become a place of repose where we can contemplate Our Lord in her company?
6. Is Divine Will spirituality like "holy slavery to the Divine Will" that is carried out in, with and through Luisa?
7. Is the reason we link to Luisa because she is "the Little Newborn of the Divine Will," in the respect that she is united to that single Act of the Creator by an unbroken umbilical cord that is attached to the Womb of the Trinity?
8. And that by being linked to Luisa, we also partake in the True Divine Life that is enclosed within the Single Act of the Creator? (Got this ideas for questions 7 and 8 from Volume 19, Feb 23, 1926).
Thank you so much, Father.
May the Perfect Love of God reign in the hearts of all men!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 10/03/06 07:12:40 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: Linking to Luisa and what it means
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From: Billy de Goat To: Father Celso Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Linking to Luisa and what it means
Dear Billy, [He responds in RED].
Father Thomas,
Thank you for answering my questions thus far.
1. I was thinking about the necessity of linking to Luisa. These questions came to mind: Does Linking to Luisa mean we always act in Luisa? It is always "Fiat!" to Jesus and Mary through Luisa.
2. Does linking to Luisa mean that when we pray, we are to always pray in Luisa? In "Unity" with Luisa.
3. When we receive Jesus in Holy Communion, do we always receive Him in Luisa, so that He can take His delight in her?
The Prayers of Luisa Piccarreta After She Received Jesus in the Eucharist
VOL. 4 - November 16, 1900 ‘My most sweet Jesus, when will it be that You take this heart of mine to conform it completely to Yours, in such a way that I may live from the life of your Heart?’
VOL. 4 - August 6, 1901 ‘My sweet Good, how lovable and desirable You are! How can men not love You? Even worse, they offend You! By loving You one finds everything, and the loving of You contains all goods, while by not loving You every good escapes from us. Yet, who loves You? But, O please! my dearest treasure, put aside the offenses of men, and let us pour ourselves out in loving each other for a little.’
VOL. 4 - October 3, 1901 ‘My most beloved Jesus, I offer You my heart for your satisfaction and in eternal praise of You; and I offer You all of myself, even the tiniest particles of my body like as many walls to be placed before You in order to block any offense which might be given to You, accepting them all upon myself if it were possible, and for your pleasure, until the day of judgment. And since I want my offering to be complete and to satisfy You for all, I intend for all the pains which I will bear by receiving upon myself the offenses given to You, to repay You with all the glory which the Saints who are in Heaven were supposed to give You when they were on earth; that which the souls in Purgatory were supposed to give You, and that glory which all men, past, present and future, owe You. I offer them to You for all in general, and for each one in particular.’
VOL. 8 - February 9, 1908 ‘Lord, keep me always clasped to You, for I am too little, and if You do not keep me clasped, because I am little, I may get lost.’
VOL. 9 - November 4, 1909 ‘I am now tightly united with You – even more, I am identified with You. If we are one single thing, I leave my being in You, and I take Yours. So I leave You my mind, and I take Yours; I leave You my eyes, my mouth, my heart, my hands, my steps… Oh! how happy I will be from now on! I will think with your mind, I will look with your eyes, I will speak with your mouth, I will love with your Heart, I will work with your hands, I will walk with your feet… And if something comes to me, I will say: "I left my being in Jesus and I took His own – go to Jesus, and He will answer you for me." Oh, how blissful I feel! Ah yes, I take from You also your beatitude, isn’t it true, Jesus? But, my Life and my Good, with your beatitude You render all Heaven blissful, while if I take your beatitude I make no one blissful.’
VOL. 9 - April 10, 1910 ‘Jesus, give honor to Yourself in coming into me. My Queen Mama, Saints, all Angels, I am so very poor; everything that is yours – put it in my heart, not for me, but for the honor of Jesus.’
VOL. 10 - November 29, 1910 ‘My Life, my Good and my All, it shows that You alone are everything for me. I have never found in any creature, as good and holy as he might be, a word, a comfort, a solution for the slightest doubt of mine. It shows how there is to be no one for me, but You alone: You alone – the All for me, and I alone, alone – always alone for You. And so I abandon myself in You, completely and always. As bad as I am, have the goodness of holding me in your arms, without leaving me for one single instant.’
VOL. 11 - December 22, 1916 ‘I am unable to do anything, or say anything, therefore I feel the great need to do what You do, and to repeat your own words. In your Will I find, present and as though in act, the acts You did in receiving Yourself in the Sacrament, I make them my own, and I repeat them for You.’
VOL. 11 - February 24, 1917 ‘My Life, how I wish I could do what You Yourself did in receiving Yourself sacramentally, so that You may find your own contentments, your own prayers, your reparations in me.’
VOL. 16 - December 29, 1923 ‘My Love, my Jesus, You have created everything for me, and gave it to me as a gift; therefore everything is mine, and I give it to You to love You. So I say to You, "I love You" in every drop of light of the sun; "I love You" in the flickering of the stars; "I love You" in every drop of water. Your Will allows me to see your "I love you" for me even in the depths of the ocean, and I impress my "I love You" for You, in every fish that darts in the sea. I want to impress my "I love You" in the flight of every bird – "I love You" everywhere, my Love. I want to impress my "I love You" on the wings of the wind, in the moving of the leaves, in every spark of fire – "I love You" for myself and for all…’
VOL. 16 - December 29, 1923 ‘I love you in every thought of creature; I love You in the flight of every gaze; I love You in the sound of every word; I love You in every heartbeat, breath and affection; I love You in every drop of blood, in every work and step,…’
VOL. 17 - June (?), 1924 ‘My sweet Life, I do not want to be alone when I am with You, but I want everything and everyone together with me. And not only do I want the crown of all your children, but I also want the crown of all things created by You, so that, together with me, in the endlessness of your Most Holy Will in which I find everything, prostrate at your feet - all together, we may adore You, thank You, bless You.’…‘Do You see, my Love, how beautiful your works are? How the sun, opening its way with its rays, while prostrating itself to adore You, rises up to You to embrace You and kiss You? How the stars, forming a crown around You, smile at You with their sweet flickering and say to You: "Great are You. We give You glory for ever and ever"? How the sea flows, and with its harmonious murmuring, like many silvery voices, says to You: "Infinite thanks to our Creator"? And together with the sun, I embrace You and kiss You; with the stars, I recognize You and glorify You; with the sea, I thank You.’
VOL. 21 - February 23, 1927 ‘My Love and my life, your Will has the virtue of multiplying your Life for as many beings as exist and will exist on earth. So, in your Will I want to form as many Jesuses, in order to give the whole of You to each soul of Purgatory, to each Blessed of Heaven, and to each being living on the earth.’
VOL. 35 - April 10, 1938 ‘In your Will all is mine; so I love You with the love of my Mother and Queen - and yours. I kiss You with her lips; I hug You very tight with her arms; and, carrying You with me, I take refuge inside her Heart, to give You her joys, her delights, her Maternity, so that You may find the sweetness and protection that only your Mama can give You....’
VOL. 35 - April 10, 1938 ‘I love You with the immense Power and Love of the Father, and with the endless Love of the Holy Spirit. I love You with the love with which all the Angels and Saints love You. I love You with that love with which all the creatures, past, present and future, love You - or should love You. I love You for all created things, and with the same Love with which You created them....’
4. When we link to Luisa, does she become in us like a burning lamp that lights up our soul and inflames us with the love of God? No, that is the sanctity of the saints. When we truly link ourselves to Luisa we can then receive the "True Life" of Jesus and Mary found in Luisa.
5 When we link to Luisa, does she become a place of repose where we can contemplate Our Lord in her company? We must become so small that Jesus sees only Luisa in us.
6. Is Divine Will spirituality like "holy slavery to the Divine Will" that is carried out in, with and through Luisa? NO, the saints were to know love and serve God. We through Luisa are called to Know, Love and Possess God.
[Satan refused to serve, too. Now, I'm not saying we cannot possess God within our souls to some degree in this life. On the contrary, I believe this is possible, but only through the intercession and guidance of the Virgin Mary and the Power and Action of her Spouse, the Holy Spirit. If a Child of God comes to possess God within his soul (in a created way through grace) that Child is also to SERVE God. That is, We are to both POSSESS and SERVE, just like Jesus. He possesses and serves the Father. This service of Christ continues to this day in the Sacrifice of the Mass. To make a claim that we are to possess without service is a claim that places us above the Only Begotten Son.
I repeat, in all things, we look to our Master, Our Lord Jesus Christ as a model. He says:
In John 13:16, "Amen, amen, I say to you: The servant is not greater than his lord: neither is the apostle greater than he that sent him."
And in John 15:20, "Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you."
Our Lord was a humble, obedient SERVANT of God who did not consider Himself equal to God:
Philippians 2:5-8 says, "Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, He emptied himself, taking the form of a SLAVE, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, He humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross."
Acts 3:13 says, "The God of Abraham, (the God) of Isaac, and (the God) of Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus whom you handed over and denied in Pilate's presence, when he had decided to release him."
Acts 3:26 says, "For you first, God raised up his SERVANT and sent him to bless you by turning each of you from your evil ways."
Acts 4:27 says, "Indeed they gathered in this city against your holy SERVANT Jesus whom you anointed, Herod and Pontius Pilate, together with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel …"
Acts 4:29-30 says, "And now, Lord, take note of their threats, and enable your servants to speak your word with all boldness, as you stretch forth (your) hand to heal, and signs and wonders are done through the name of your holy SERVANT Jesus."
The Church teaches that Jesus Christ took the form of a servant and a slave in order to set us free from the bondage of sin. The Piccarretans teach that the Children of the Divine Will will possess The Lord in this life, but are not required to serve Him. This clearly an unbiblical teaching, for we cannot exceed our Master, Jesus Christ, for our Master was the most humble SERVANT of all].
7. Is the reason we link to Luisa because she is "the Little Newborn of the Divine Will," in the respect that she is united to that single Act of the Creator by an unbroken umbilical cord that is attached to the Womb of the Trinity? She is our link to the Divine Will.
8. And that by being linked to Luisa, we also partake in the True Divine Life that is enclosed within the Single Act of the Creator? (Got this ideas for questions 7 and 8 from Volume 19, Feb 23, 1926). Good!
Thank you so much, Father.
May the Perfect Love of God reign in the hearts of all men!
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: Billy de Goat Date: 10/03/06 23:38:16 To: Father Celso Subject: An egg metaphor
Father Thomas,
Thanks for your last corrections.
I wrote a metaphoric description of Living in the Divine Will:
The Human Will alone is like an egg with a live egg yolk. Luisa Piccarreta comes along with a needle and pokes a small hole in the top of the egg and a large hole at the bottom of the egg. Then, she blows into the small hole and the yolk shoots out the other end. (Blowing eggs). Then, the True Divine Life of Jesus and Mary fills the void. The Human Will no longer "lives" because the only part remaining is the dead shell. The Divine Will then reigns in it. The merits of the Egg become, little by little, more and more Divine until the merits become totally Divine. Is this Correct?
You told me earlier the Human Will "disappears," "no longer lives" and "chooses to live in its nothingness." Are these statements to be taken literally?[It's interesting that he didn't answer this question].
Well, thanks again.
May the Perfect Love of God Reign in our Hearts.
Sincerely,
Billy de Goat
From: BThomas Celso Date: 10/04/06 07:11:35 To: Billy de Goat Subject: Re: An egg metaphor
Dear Billy,
God bless you and your family in the Most Holy Divine Will.
We always try to explain the Divine Will with the exact words dictated to Luisa by the Word made flesh.
Any metaphors that we use to try to explain the Divine Will only puts us on a tangent to the Truth.
Please read, re-read and put into practice the words that Word made flesh, Jesus Christ, Our Lord, Our Master, Our King, Our Savior, Our God, spoke to Luisa.
The doctrine [Only The Church has Authority, given to her by Christ, to declare Doctrine. Luisa and her followers have overstepped their bounds. Neither Luisa, nor Father Celso, has the Authority to declare Doctrine outside the bounds of the Magisterium] of the Divine Will given to us by Jesus through Luisa must be really studied and known by the souls who want to begin to "Live in the Divine Will."
Do you have the letters of Luisa?
Do you have the Book of Heaven - the 36 Volumes of Luisa?
Do you have the 24 Hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ?
If you truly read and study these beautiful treasures you will then only begin to know what it means to "Live in the Divine Will."
Only Jesus and Mary who posses the Divine Will could teach Luisa to also possess this "Gift" of gifts.
Adam was to teach his children but he failed.
Therefore the only way to begin to "Live in the Divine Will" is to learn as Luisa was taught by Jesus and Mary, the New Adam and New Eve.
Get reading!
Fiat!
Fr. Thomas